wlhayesmfs wrote:I ran a Phillip 66 Station years ago. Seems like a lifetime but I was only seeing about .06 cents per gallon most of my profit was service and tires.
Anyone remember the gas wars and .14 cent gas. We didn't mind the Hemi motors and three two's or duel quads then. Two tanks of gas ran about $5.00 for a night of crusing. Of course I was only making $15.00 a week clear but that was date money and gas.
I grew up on Long Island and remember the gas stations on every corner of an intersection. When they started a price war, the gas went as low as 16.9 for regular, which was 94 or 96 octane.
Remember Sunoco 260...... Them hi performance engines just loved that gas and it sold for the grand sum of 22.9 per gallon.
robinson46176 wrote:SNIPPED
I did look at used Smart cars and decided that I could buy a lot of high priced gas for $12,000. Our old Astro van gets about 30 MPG if it is running under 40 MPH and that is the speed limit on those streets.
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My thoughts exactly! And I only get around 12-15 MPG.
Gene
'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton
Here is one for you. All you old timers are talking about gas being 10 to 20 cents a gallon. But that was 55 years ago. Granted I am only 26, but when I started driving a mere 10 years ago, I remember getting gas once for 96 cents and most often it was 1.15. So in just 10 years, the price has nearly quadrupled. Thats something to think about here as well. When you were younger, a 15 cents for gas was on par with 75 cents an hour earned.
In the past 10 years though, salaries have not quadrupled like gas has so the price is going up rather quickly in comparison to inflation. Just my observation.
I have a feeling those smart cars are going away here pretty quickly. If I remember right, they get around 40 miles to the gallon. There are a half a dozen cars out now that are the size of a toyota corolla and get 40 to a gallon. i don't think i would drive a pint size car with no storage room and expensive repairs when I could get a compact car with the same gas mileage.
At the same point, I wouldn't buy either cars as I like my Chevy Colorado.
I saw one of those Smart Cars on the highway the other day and I don't think I'd want to ride in one, let alone own one. Just seeing it out there with a tractor trailer made me cringe. Kind of reminded me of an Isetta I saw in the '50s after an accident; it looked like a squashed can of tomatoes.
I remember sitting in Senior Economics class in high school in the 60's. Gas prices were in the neighborhood of 25 cents then. The teacher stood up front and made the statement that if gas prices went up to a buck a gallon overnight that everyone of us would be in line to get that dollar gas. I remember that we unanimously denied that we would be that stupid.
[quote="pennview"]I saw one of those Smart Cars on the highway the other day and I don't think I'd want to ride in one, let alone own one. Just seeing it out there with a tractor trailer made me cringe. Kind of reminded me of an Isetta I saw in the '50s after an accident]
My son was saying pretty much the same thing last night until I reminded him that we are both motorcycle riders and neither of us have a bike with seat belts, air bags or built in crash protection of any kind...
There is a big difference between a Smart car and a 1950's Isetta. Everybody owes it to themselves as "continuing education" to do a Google search on Smart car crash test and watch at least 3 of those videos. Notice the high crash rating given them by the insurance industry. One of my favorite cars I ever owned was a 1956 full sized Ford 2 door sedan. Loved that car. In an identical crash at the same speeds and into the same barriers the occupants of the Smart car have far better chances of walking away... Look closely at how the passenger cubicle stays intact and in one video after a "violent" high speed crash into concrete barriers the passenger side door still opens and closes smoothly. It's not your fathers Oldsmobile.
Having said that one is not what I want either... We need room to haul stuff like horse feed and supplies as well as groceries and family now and then. Even with careful packing it would be pretty hard to haul a Shopsmith in one.
I have just been exploring for something that I can buy pretty cheaply used that gets extra good mileage as an "errand runner" since so much of our every day running is under 3 miles away. Even most of our other "running" is less than 30 miles away. Most of those miles are on secondary roads because, well just because we enjoy those roads more. We like to cruise around looking closely at the world as we go seeing how other people live. Getting from one place to another as quickly as possible just is no longer in our lifestyle.
So far as I look at possibilities our old Astro-van keeps winning as the most ideal vehicle for us... Its only problem is that it is a lot closer to 300,000 miles than I really like for planning any long trips. We might track down another nice one and continue wearing this one out running errands.
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farmer
Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
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Going by the inflation rate alone, a gallon of gas should be about $1.50 today.
Yes, I was quite shocked when I first saw a crash test video of the Smart Car. Still wouldn't have one. My Harley gets the same gas mileage and is a lot more fun.
Heath
Central Louisiana
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heathicus wrote:The price at each station (if they are honorable - unlike the one Farmer referenced who raised his price just because the other guy did) depends on the price they had to pay for gas on the day they ordered it for that particular station. It could also be that one station is in location that requires a specific blend of gas that is more expensive than the blend required where the other station is. Throughout the year, there are about 50 different regional/seasonal blends of gasoline that have to be used across the nation.
Everyone must have ordered gas on the same day, because it went up 10 cents last night everywhere. I was wrong on the price, it was $3.55. as of this morning it is $3.65 all over town. Now how can that be that everyone had to raise it 10 cents????????:(