New Shopsmith Mark v and Mark v11 owner

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat May 07, 2011 8:37 pm

jayp413 wrote:I'm going to try very hard to keep them intact. The headstock is moving very stubbornly. I noticed one tooth was broken on the track. Not a huge deal. The tubes are rusted making it hard to remove. A little patience will hopefully work out well. To be honest I hope to get the headstock to someone who will want it to rebuild an existing one or rebuild this one. Very minor flaws in it. All functions, buttons, plastic speed knob and key switch are in great shape!

The rust makes this a hard nut to crack. You will have to remove the rack teeth to clean up the tube(dicey procedure as well as reattaching those brittle plastic gear teeth). IIRC they are pop rivoted. If there is a tooth 'missing' make sure it is not jammed somewhere.

You felt guilty the first trip, and now you are considering returning for another m5 and jointer and belt sander????

Wow 0 to 3 SS in a week!!!!

jayp413 · Post by **jayp413** » Sat May 07, 2011 8:43 pm

JPG40504 wrote:The rust makes this a hard nut to crack. You will have to remove the rack teeth to clean up the tube(dicey procedure as well as reattaching those brittle plastic gear teeth). IIRC they are pop rivoted. If there is a tooth 'missing' make sure it is not jammed somewhere.

You felt guilty the first trip, and now you are considering returning for another m5 and jointer and belt sander????

Wow 0 to 3 SS in a week!!!!

I was lucky enough to find the missing tooth in the gears. Someone must have tried to advance it and had it break off and get stuck inside. I will try my best not to remove the teeth because i fear it will never fit quite the same.
Actually he only has the jointer/sander

I've been in contact with him since I left. Very nice man. He has more woodworking tools then he will ever need. He no longer uses them having newer stand alone versions of every tool and just wants them to live on. Hopefully i can extend their lives long enough for someone else to 'steal" them from me

wannabewoodworker · Post by **wannabewoodworker** » Sat May 07, 2011 8:44 pm

My first acquisition was a Mark VII. I now have 2 other Mark V's and the mark VII is my favorite of the three by far. I would not modify the Mark VII at all and would keep it complete. The only problem with the VII's was that people did not maintain them properly which caused the bearings to go bad subsequently heating up and melting the plastic speed changer cam. I took mine completely apart and rebuilt it with all new bearings etc. the quadrant follower I broke trying to remove it's bearing so i had to have one made. I now have a second one I purchased from a forum member here so I have a spare thankfully. A couple of us have been trying to get some cams made as those two parts are the only ones that really need to be sourced except for the motor reversing switch. But that can be replaced easily with newer parts. If you rebuild and renew the Mark VII headstock and use it i think you will find it is a much more fun machine but that is my opinion only. Please don't chop it up it deserves to be used as designed and should last just as long as the other one as long as you keep up with the maintenance.

jayp413 · Post by **jayp413** » Sat May 07, 2011 8:49 pm

wannabewoodworker wrote:My first acquisition was a Mark VII. I now have 2 other Mark V's and the mark VII is my favorite of the three by far. I would not modify the Mark VII at all and would keep it complete. The only problem with the VII's was that people did not maintain them properly which caused the bearings to go bad subsequently heating up and melting the plastic speed changer cam. I took mine completely apart and rebuilt it with all new bearings etc. the quadrant follower I broke trying to remove it's bearing so i had to have one made. I now have a second one I purchased from a forum member here so I have a spare thankfully. A couple of us have been trying to get some cams made as those two parts are the only ones that really need to be sourced except for the motor reversing switch. But that can be replaced easily with newer parts. If you rebuild and renew the Mark VII headstock and use it i think you will find it is a much more fun machine but that is my opinion only. Please don't chop it up it deserves to be used as designed and should last just as long as the other one as long as you keep up with the maintenance.

You make a very good case! I will have to ponder this for a few! If I could find a source for the few parts you are mentioning then I could see it.

jayp413 · Post by **jayp413** » Mon May 09, 2011 4:24 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]INDEED! Ya got some model 10 parts in there also!]
Being "new" I was wondering if you could tell me which parts you believe to be for the 10. Any help would be appreciated. I know poppi was asking about the fence.

wannabewoodworker · Post by **wannabewoodworker** » Mon May 09, 2011 9:10 pm

You don't have to remove the rack teeth to clean the rust off. I pondered doing that but I was also worried about being able to get them back on to the tubes without damaging them and mine are complete. The other option is to replace the rack teeth with a set of metal rack gear teeth which can be sourced through McMaster Carr. I was going to do that but mine are fine and I didn't want to mess with them at this point. I was bale to clean my tubes up with the teeth intact it just takes longer and you have to take your time.

jayp413 · Post by **jayp413** » Mon May 09, 2011 9:17 pm

wannabewoodworker wrote:You don't have to remove the rack teeth to clean the rust off. I pondered doing that but I was also worried about being able to get them back on to the tubes without damaging them and mine are complete. The other option is to replace the rack teeth with a set of metal rack gear teeth which can be sourced through McMaster Carr. I was going to do that but mine are fine and I didn't want to mess with them at this point. I was bale to clean my tubes up with the teeth intact it just takes longer and you have to take your time.

Thanks for the tips! I really have been thinking of swapping out to metal tracks when it comes time. One tooth is already broken. I wouldn't want to feel I have to work gently all the time with the head track.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue May 10, 2011 2:00 am

jayp413 wrote:Being "new" I was wondering if you could tell me which parts you believe to be for the 10. Any help would be appreciated. I know poppi was asking about the fence.

[ATTACH]12930[/ATTACH] 2.5" Jointer head

[ATTACH]12931[/ATTACH] Front table extension, table insert

[ATTACH]12932[/ATTACH] Motor pulley(?)

The fences are Mark 5/V and VII.

wannabewoodworker · Post by **wannabewoodworker** » Tue May 10, 2011 7:48 am

There is a Mark VII clutch handle/lever in this photo with the little red handle and a Jointer Cutter Head in the foreground.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Tue May 10, 2011 10:54 am

As I look at your treasure trove of loot I noticed that you also have a set of files for your jigsaw. They can be hard to find. Also the jointer head mounts on the quill without any kind of arbor. Used with the shaper fence, you can do some light jointing.