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JPG40504 wrote:Then figger(compare) the percentage of those still functioning to those manufactured.

That is the one thing that scares me about the PowerPro with no serviceable parts but for now I am thrilled.
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paulmcohen wrote:That is the one thing that scares me about the PowerPro with no serviceable parts but for now I am thrilled.
Is it that there are NO serviceable parts in the PowerPro OR Shopsmith has not yet begun to sell PowerPro unique serviceable parts?
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dusty wrote:IOR Shopsmith has not yet begun to sell PowerPro unique serviceable parts?

No market for them since ALL are STILL under warranty.
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dusty wrote:Is it that there are NO serviceable parts in the PowerPro OR Shopsmith has not yet begun to sell PowerPro unique serviceable parts?

In a pre-PowerPro Shopsmith headstock everything was user serviceable (you were not dependent on Shopsmith existing), lots of parts available even after 50 years. With a PowerPro if something goes wrong with the electronics or motor you are completely dependent on Shopsmith for service.
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We are still dependent on ss for unique parts(except for getting used ones on e-bay, but there is not 50+ years accumulation of new power pro parts).

Valid enough to be concerned re 'electronic' parts reliability and condition of any future used ones.
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paulmcohen wrote:In a pre-PowerPro Shopsmith headstock everything was user serviceable (you were not dependent on Shopsmith existing), lots of parts available even after 50 years. With a PowerPro if something goes wrong with the electronics or motor you are completely dependent on Shopsmith for service.
I would believe if the current Shopsmith company was to fold, the PowerPro supplier "Teknatool" should be able to supply future parts for the PowerPro. I would believe the Nova DVR wood lathe parts could be fitted/modified for the PowerPro headstock if the PowerPro parts were not available any where.

Past discussions with Teknatool customer service people leads me to believe that they would be offering several different HP ratings for the DVR motor and a separate DVR motor controller box for the US market soon.

Therefore when the Nova Repair Center offers repairs and service in the US, then they should be able to service and repair the PowerPro only if Shopsmith no longer exists.

I am sure some day someone will disassembly the PowerPro code and trace the hardware for schmetic drawings.
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paulmcohen wrote:In a pre-PowerPro Shopsmith headstock everything was user serviceable (you were not dependent on Shopsmith existing), lots of parts available even after 50 years. With a PowerPro if something goes wrong with the electronics or motor you are completely dependent on Shopsmith for service.
Which is why I upgraded my shorty powerhead with the PowerPro upgrade and retained my 510 powerhead unmodified in the event my PowerPro fails and requires repairing by SS. I think it would be a wise investment to maintain a backup powerhead as a standby unit just in case. I have a feeling just about everyone here has at least 1 backup powerhead waiting in the wings if it's service is required :D
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fredsheldon wrote:I have a feeling just about everyone here has at least 1 backup powerhead waiting in the wings if it's service is required :D

Well in my case your wrong on that feeling.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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beeg wrote:Well in my case your wrong on that feeling.
Well, if and when you upgrade to the PowerPro, you will have a backup if you don't trade it in or do a DIY.
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'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
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fredsheldon wrote:Well, if and when you upgrade to the PowerPro, you will have a backup if you don't trade it in or do a DIY.
Only a casting, quill feed and clamp would be 'missing'!

FWIW I have backups for the induction motor version(s).;)

Yes when the 'day' comes. the 'original' headstock shall become a 'backup'(separate casting, quill feed, and clamp are waiting!).:D
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