SS Tracksaw

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:51 pm

cincinnati wrote:+1

All the negative comments on an item that has been out a full day.
Why are people so negative now days?

Sight Unseen no less!

wannabewoodworker · Post by **wannabewoodworker** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:48 pm

tool72 wrote:I would like to reply to some of the concerns and comments about the True Trac System. I am one of the partners who designed and refined our tool over the last two years. Our company is Insight Toolworks LLC, my partner and I have over 50 years experience in the woodworking tool industry. We were first made aware of the track saw concept when Festool introduced theirs several years ago. I personally have had to work in a small shop (MKV owner since 1978) and was amzed at the ease and percision of the track saw, but the price, high cost of metric blades, and so, on kept me from buying.

Are you Dick Rhodes? I was doing a little Googling on your company and found a nice article on one of the woodworking magazine sites where you guys introduced your new tracsaw at a woodworking show. They had some good things to say about your stuff and good pics as well. I think you should be proud of your accomplishment and I wish you only the best of luck with your endeavor. I personally like the looks of your trac saw and would love to won one as I never have good luck with sheet goods but at almost $300 for the whole thing it is just too rich for my blood. Too bad that it couldn't be marketed down around the $100 range. If you could i think you would sell a ton of them. Good luck with the venture!!!:D

tool72 · Post by **tool72** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:56 pm

SDSSmith wrote:Thanks for posting. Can you do beveled rips with the saw on the track? Hold down clamps were mentioned as being available, is there a website where all of your offerings can be viewed? Thanks again.

Yes, beveled rips can be done, the track is designed so that one side can be used for 90 degree (normal) cuts and one for 45/angled cuts.

While this product has been sold on the woodworking shows over the winter, we are still in the process of getting a website up, as well as doing more video's to explain the finer points not mentioned in the 4 minute overview, as well as tips and tricks to make using the system easier. We also have attachments and other adapters currently in development.

To expand upon the anti-chip edges, they are a combination material - the bottom is a softer, stickier material that gives the non-skid properties and is extruded are together. The adapter plate has an attachment that rides on the outside of the blade, creating the zero clearance needed to eliminate chip out, but it also balances the saw to further help keep it on the track and eliminate play.

The phone number in the video is operational, so please contact us if you have questions or concerns.

osx-addict · Post by **osx-addict** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:57 pm

dusty wrote: (I do not, repeat do not recommend buying sheet goods at the box stores)

The reason for this (since someone asked) is as follows -- go to your local home center (HD, etc) and buy a typical 3/4" sheet of plywood of what appears to be decent quality (e.g. maple,etc). Now, go to a reputable plywood dealer that caters to cabinet builders and buy one of their 3/4" sheets with the same outer veneer of maple,etc. Now, take the sheets home and start breaking them down using a track-saw or equiv. You'll find the sheet from the local big-box store likely has voids, gaps and the center is filled with scrap material. This is EXACTLY what I found when I bought a 4x8 sheet at a local big-box retailer recently and later did the same at a reputable plywood dealer about 20 minutes away.. The plywood dealer's material was VASTLY superior -- thicker layers (5 vs ~9?) and NO gaps, no crappy fillers. I would NEVER build anything using big-box plywood -- no matter HOW good it looks on the surface.. YMMV!

Sorry for being OT!

tool72 · Post by **tool72** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:59 pm

wannabewoodworker wrote:Are you Dick Rhodes?

Yes, I believe that article was done at the Columbus show, that was the first show that we took the TrueTrac to, since it was pretty close to home.

fjimp · Post by **fjimp** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:08 pm

I admire anyone who introduces a new product especially if it promotes a better or safer way to work. I like the looks of this new product yet will remain loyal to the E Z product. I find I am clumsy at best and the clamps that slide into the ends (underneath the extrusions) are highly valuable to me. I also like Dino's table idea. In that I own his entire system there is no gain for me to invest in the newest product on the market. I do take my hat off to Shopsmith for filling a avoid with an American made product. Good luck gentlemen. Fjimp

algale · Post by **algale** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:49 pm

Well, it looks like bigjohn1 is a member of the EurekaZone track saw forum where he's made over 900 posts, including one on TrueTrac. http://tracksawforum.com/showthread.php?p=16225

Several of the members there, including bigjohn1 and the inventor (Dino) are making a ruckus about potential patent infringement by TrueTrac.

I suspect they must have known TrueTrac was coming to Shopsmith and bigjohn1 has been lurking on this forum waiting for TrueTrac to debut so he could make his negative posts!

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:55 pm

Thank you to all those who submitted POSITIVE comments! The NEGATIVE (uninformed bashing) ones, I can easily disregard. Also thank you to tool72 for your informative posts!:)

bigjohn1 · Post by **bigjohn1** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:28 pm

algale wrote:Well, it looks like bigjohn1 is a member of the EurekaZone track saw forum where he's made over 900 posts, including one on TrueTrac. http://tracksawforum.com/showthread.php?p=16225

Several of the members there, including bigjohn1 and the inventor (Dino) are making a ruckus about potential patent infringement by TrueTrac.

I suspect they must have known TrueTrac was coming to Shopsmith and bigjohn1 has been lurking on this forum waiting for TrueTrac to debut so he could make his negative posts!

Algale not like it should matter to you and your stat building but yes I do think Dino and eurekazone are number one thats why I own the system.
And think this True track is very nice and why not its a close copy to the EZ track. Oh buy the way I do own a shopsmith mark V also and think its a cool tool also thats why I have one. But will see how things go down the road won't we. Good luck to them. You should look around I'm not the only one that thinks SS is wrong in what they have done shame! But I have the right to speak my mind like you have about bringing up my name I have used trade names not nics to speak out about and if you can't see why then thats your problem. Not sure who you are and you can say what you like and I have my tools of choice at this time and hope others will not buy knock offs and see what is going on hear. So like I said not like its a bad Item just not yours to take the credit for. 900 posts dang I must really like that EZ stuff.

bigjohn1 · Post by **bigjohn1** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:38 pm

Hey guys sorry you feel I'm a bad guy and am miss informed but please who is right and who is wrong here.

And as for me causing a problem about nothing I will not say another word about this track it's still better then a table saw being used.

It does look good and may serve a purpose so in that way it can't be wrong for some out there.

I have one or two mark v and a complette EZ system so I don't need mutch more then that.

John......