E. Emerson Tool Co. All-In-One system

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The good the bad the ugly.

I have had this system for a while, I've been happy with it. I most recently used it on the one sheet of plywood picnic table project.

It is limited to 4 foot cuts but other models can be purchased to do 8 foot cuts.

You need to measure and/or use a square to align the guide.

It would be scary and unsafe to do plunge cuts with the saw system I have.

You are limited to how near the edge you can cut. You can get pretty close by using some tricks of the trade.

On my system the plate does not provide a zci like system. I think one could come up with something if you really wanted to. I don't find the cuts to be too bad providing the good surface is down and the blade is sharp. Materials also vary and you do have the option of better blades which might provide a cleaner cut.

The thinness of material can also be a problem. Since the clamp can cause thinner sheets to warp/bend from clamping pressure. Again this has to do with the material and just how thin it is.

The plate on my system is left on unless it has to be taken off. It takes a while to get the alignment back to right on after it is separated. BTW with the plate on the saw no longer fits in the case and I have not attempted to find a bigger box to store it in, mostly laziness on my part.


Cost wise the guide was if I recall right about $30, the saw plate $25, the jaws maybe $8. I have not priced the current items but you bet they are more expensive now.

All in all I've been very happy and satisfied with this system and I am not shopping for a new one any time soon.

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Dusty that looks like a nice gift your daughter got you. It is different then mine, I don't think they had your style when I got mine.

When you get some time with it why not give us a review, we would be interest to here what you report.

Ed

dusty wrote:I was embarrassed when I realized I had this hanging on the wall and hardly ever used it. It was a gift from one of my daughters and I had none of the accessories. When the saw track discussion arose, I did some research and discovered that there was a saw plate available. I when to Woodworkers Source and got one.

I have the 54" model (U54) so it is not useful for ripping 8' sheets. I will probably solve that with a U99.

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The profile of my rail is a lot different than yours and would facilitate a saw plate that rode up top rather than along side. BUT, that is not the way the plate is built.

My plate also functions as a zero clearance devise. (Maybe I mounted the saw wrong.:o)
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reible wrote:Dusty that looks like a nice gift your daughter got you. It is different then mine, I don't think they had your style when I got mine.

When you get some time with it why not give us a review, we would be interest to here what you report.

Ed
Your plate mounts different than mine. The blade is closer to the guide than on mine. Did you re-drill the plate so that you could mount it that way.

Yours appears that it would be more stable than mine.
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Well Ed it sure looks the same. I have a short clamp with the same shape and colors and it has no label either, I too was guessing it if emerson.

I've posted several picture of the plate, does that too look like yours?

Perhaps a phone call or email to them could clear this up. Or even just order the plate and see if it fits, assuming it can be returned if it doesn't.

Ed


Ed in Tampa wrote:I think mine that have absolutely no name are the same clamps. I have a saw plate but it is broken and I have wanted to replace it but didn't know for sure if the e emerson clamp were the same.
Here is what mine look like
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I think from looking at your pictures the motor of your saw is over the hump in the track, on mine it is the other way.

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I have no idea which is right or wrong or maybe there is not right or wrong?

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dusty wrote:Your plate mounts different than mine. The blade is closer to the guide than on mine. Did you re-drill the plate so that you could mount it that way.

Yours appears that it would be more stable than mine.
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reible wrote:I think from looking at your pictures the motor of your saw is over the hump in the track, on mine it is the other way.

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I have no idea which is right or wrong or maybe there is not right or wrong?

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It is ready for use so I am not going to change it for the time being. I don't believe it is a case of right or wrong - just different. My plate is not drilled so that it could be rotated - besides, it was assembled when I got it.

I thought maybe you had redrilled yours.
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Ed in Tampa; the Emerson site has some drawings of their various types. If you have not viewed those, you might want to take a look. There are three of four different profiles.

When I bought my saw plate (yesterday, I think maybe the day before), the guy at Woodworkers Source told me they were on sale because they did not fit on the new track.

I think that indicates that I do not have the new track because mine seems to fit and it looks identical to Ed's except my saw is mounted different than his.

I am going to cut a wooden runner (96+" long) to see if I can make one to cut full sheets.
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Ed,

Thank you so much that is exactly the information I have been looking for.:cool:

I was on the fence about to buy one or not, but now I am going to get one. (as soon as I get back from camping and talk upper management into it:o ) I have a local distributor so I get to go look at all the toys and hopefully play with them in the store.
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reible wrote:Well Ed it sure looks the same. I have a short clamp with the same shape and colors and it has no label either, I too was guessing it if emerson.

I've posted several picture of the plate, does that too look like yours?

Perhaps a phone call or email to them could clear this up. Or even just order the plate and see if it fits, assuming it can be returned if it doesn't.

Ed
My plate was an early on plate it was made up of glued up white plexi or that slippery plastic. Yours looks molded.
My plate and yours work basically the same. However mine has been broken reglued and broken so many times it is literally in pieces.

I think the company that bought the clamps I got was caio or something and I think I see that logo on one of your clamps. my guess after visiting the E emerson site is I have an old old "A" clamp. I tired pulling the end cap off to see if the extruded metal was the same and now I got a wild spring. I got it back together but it wasn't pretty. Maybe it is time to order some new clamps, a new saw plate or sit tight and see what the track saw new product does.
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Ed in Tampa wrote:My plate was an early on plate it was made up of glued up white plexi or that slippery plastic. Yours looks molded.
My plate and yours work basically the same. However mine has been broken reglued and broken so many times it is literally in pieces.

I think the company that bought the clamps I got was caio or something and I think I see that logo on one of your clamps. my guess after visiting the E emerson site is I have an old old "A" clamp. I tired pulling the end cap off to see if the extruded metal was the same and now I got a wild spring. I got it back together but it wasn't pretty. Maybe it is time to order some new clamps, a new saw plate or sit tight and see what the track saw new product does.

Look like this except for the slide lock? Ciao = same folks! Make that the clamp faces, not the slide lock!!! I misunderstood what yer pic was!!:o Whoops! caio!!!!!

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