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jefewhit
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Belt Problem?

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Hi there everyone. New poster to this site, and am the new owner of an older model greenie. Just started renting a new house and she came with it. The owner said if you can do anything with it it is yours. She runs, but the quill does not turn. I took off the belt cover, and noticed there are 2 belts one on the top which is tight, and the lower is just hanging slack. I assume it is the belt/belts, but the directions that I found are a little confusing to me. How am I supposed to get my fingers into that little hole to slip the top of the belt back onto the sheeves and control thing (not sure of nomenclature obviously). A little help here if possible. Consider me a raw newbie in regards to mechanical traits. I can maintain my table saw (direct drive) and Miter saw, but not much else. Thanks for your time.
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First off, WELCOME to the forum. Does the rear SS medallion pop off? Can ya post a pic?
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Post by JPG »

Since you describe the 'lower' belt as slack, I believe the floating sheave on the motor shaft is stuck in an open position.

That would be caused by crud on the shaft preventing the floating sheave from sliding on the shaft(the spring should maintain pressure to close the sheave).

If your reference to that 'little hole' means the hole on the side opposite the power switch etc., then you are fortunate to have a later model greenie(the original greenie had no such hole at all).

In any event. oiling the sliding sheave shafts is indicated(and is always a starting point with machines that have been idle).

I refer you to the sawdust session(s) that deal with restoring the power train etc..


Start with this one!
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS123/SS123_Shopsmith_Reborn_Pt3.htm



P.S. As Beeg said, A pix will help greatly. We may notice something that you do not recognize as not normal.

.......Also I just thought, if the belt is not currently mounted on the idler pulley(speed control thingy) then that would explain the belt being slack. Question is, why is it that way??????

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Thanks guys. After doing some futzing (suberb technical word) I discovered that you were right about the pulleys. What would be the best oil to use in this case. I looked at the online manual and they said something about 10w30 non-detergent motor oil. Is that the same as 2 cycle oil? Would tool oil work in this instance? If this does not solve the problem I will go buy another camera, mine busted yesterday, to show you what is going on.
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Not 10w-30, it calls for 30 weight, I used light turbine oil.
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jefewhit wrote:Thanks guys. After doing some futzing (suberb technical word) I discovered that you were right about the pulleys. What would be the best oil to use in this case. I looked at the online manual and they said something about 10w30 non-detergent motor oil. Is that the same as 2 cycle oil? Would tool oil work in this instance? If this does not solve the problem I will go buy another camera, mine busted yesterday, to show you what is going on.
Welcome to the forum. Good to have you. Yes, you need a camera (that should be a requirement of membership).
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Oil fior ss

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jcraigie wrote:Not 10w-30, it calls for 30 weight, I used light turbine oil.



SAE 10

Light Machine Oil

3 in one

Sewing machine Oil

Turbine Oil

Electric Motor Oil

ZOOM SPOUT!!!!!!!

I recommend the last!;) Gets it to where it needs to go!:)
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Post by charlese »

Very good oiling recommendations, Red!:) Also, I will add that oiling in the vertical drill press position is easier and also helps get the oil where it needs to be.
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Post by jefewhit »

Thanks for the tips ya'll.
@charlese: Thank you for the sugggestion of the drill press. I probably would not have thought about that until it was over.
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Post by JPG »

jefewhit wrote:Thanks for the tips ya'll.
@charlese: Thank you for the sugggestion of the drill press. I probably would not have thought about that until it was over.


WHERE, are you from!:D


Suggest answering by way of yer profile.:)

P.S. To me it is y'all.;) One syllable.:rolleyes:
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