Which motor is better?
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Which motor is better?
I'm rebuilding a mid-70s headstock. It came with an AOSmith 1 1/8Hp motor. I have a mid-80s Emerson 1 1/8Hp motor from my recent PowerPro upgrade. Is the Emerson better than the AOSmith, or are they the same? Which should I use?
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Whichever one has the better bearings. If you cannot tell any difference, it doesn't matter. They are both excellent motors.jondann wrote:I'm rebuilding a mid-70s headstock. It came with an AOSmith 1 1/8Hp motor. I have a mid-80s Emerson 1 1/8Hp motor from my recent PowerPro upgrade. Is the Emerson better than the AOSmith, or are they the same? Which should I use?
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I'm told that the emerson has a bushing on one end instead of a bearing.JPG40504 wrote:Whichever one has the better bearings. If you cannot tell any difference, it doesn't matter. They are both excellent motors.
If that's true, my vote would be for the AO Smith
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No its very easy actually. Use a side hammer with a 90 degree (anyone know how to get a degree symbol?) flat hook that will fit through the bearing. Hook it on the back side of the bearing and hit the hammer on the side. it should pop out in a few hits.
of course you will have to to take the ends of the motor housing off first.
of course you will have to to take the ends of the motor housing off first.
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Thank you for the tip! I have a grinding bearing and I believe it is coming from the motor.Shop_Smith_Poppi wrote:No its very easy actually. Use a side hammer with a 90 degree (anyone know how to get a degree symbol?) flat hook that will fit through the bearing. Hook it on the back side of the bearing and hit the hammer on the side. it should pop out in a few hits.
of course you will have to to take the ends of the motor housing off first.
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
Shop_Smith_Poppi wrote:(anyone know how to get a degree symbol?)
Hold down the "ALT" type 0176. That will give ya a ° . You HAVE to use the calculator key pad on the right hand of the keyboard.
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wiredone wrote:I'm told that the emerson has a bushing on one end instead of a bearing.
If that's true, my vote would be for the AO Smith
The 1 1/8hp Emerson has a 5/8" bearing on the back end. The Emerson power station motor has bushings(both ends).
All 1 1/8hp motors have 40mm od x 12mm depth bearings. The shaft end bearings have an id of 17mm. All but the Emerson also have a 17mm id back end bearing.
i.e. Emerson ......Others ......(1 1/8hp)
......17x40x12 ....17x40x12 ... shaft end bearing
....5/8"x40x12 ....17x40x12 ... back end bearing
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