Pleasantly Surprised By Table Saw Function

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algale wrote:This is good advice. I am curious how those who have had to make bevel cuts using the tilting tables (especially the 510/520) have supported the tables. It occurs to me that the detachable/extendable legs might be used on the table tubes on the hight end of the tilted table (although with a really big set up involving multiple floating tables, the end might be too high for the extension legs?).
I do not understand.:confused: How can the 'right' ends of the tubes be 'too high' since that side of the table slopes towards the floor?


OH, maybe did you meant high? :rolleyes:
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JPG40504 wrote:I do not understand.:confused: How can the 'right' ends of the tubes be 'too high' since that side of the table slopes towards the floor?


OH, maybe did you meant high?:o
Oops. Yes, should have been too high....
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algale wrote:This is good advice. I am curious how those who have had to make bevel cuts using the tilting tables (especially the 510/520) have supported the tables. It occurs to me that the detachable/extendable legs might be used on the table tubes on the hight end of the tilted table (although with a really big set up involving multiple floating tables, the end might be too high for the extension legs?).

With unusually large projects, you would be better off taking the time to clear off your table saw and doing the work there. But on reasonably sized projects the Mark V tilting table works fine but can be improved with a bit off extra work.

I have made up two blocks that bridge the bench tubes and have a hole to accept a threaded rod (see attached image for clarification). I use the threaded rod to lend stability to the table.

I also use it as a micro-adjuster, along with a Wixey Angle Gauge, when tilting the table to a critical setting.

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Just noticed the two pictures might be confusing; table is being tilted left in one and right in the other but I think you get the idea.
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[quote="dusty"]With unusually large projects, you would be better off taking the time to clear off your table saw and doing the work there. But on reasonably sized projects the Mark V tilting table works fine but can be improved with a bit off extra work.

I have made up two blocks that bridge the bench tubes and have a hole to accept a threaded rod (see attached image for clarification). I use the threaded rod to lend stability to the table.

I also use it as a micro-adjuster, along with a Wixey Angle Gauge, when tilting the table to a critical setting.

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Just noticed the two pictures might be confusing]
Dusty, I like your jig a lot! I may have to make me on to use with my Beal tilt box. It seems like it would both add stability and make small and precise angle adjustments somewhat less of a hit or miss (or at least tap back and forth) exercise.
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What Is It??????

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Dusty:
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Just curious!;)
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[quote="JPG40504"]Dusty:
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Just curious!]

Looks like a router edge guide to me
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[quote="JPG40504"]Dusty:
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Just curious!]
That is a router edge guide for a router that I no longer have. I keep it because it looks like it might come in handy someday; one just never knows.
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[quote="dusty"]That is a router edge guide for a router that I no longer have. I keep it because it looks like it might come in handy someday]



So it isn't just me... :D


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robinson46176 wrote:So it isn't just me... :D


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You are far from alone! :o
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Re: Pleasantly Surprised By Table Saw Function

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A spammer revived this topic, so I thought I would be a good time to put a coda on it.

I was so pleasantly surprised by the Shopsmith in table saw mode that I ended up getting rid of my stand alone table saw and have been using the Shopsmith as my only table saw.

I built a version of Dusty's outfeed table, which both raises and tilts with the main work table, and I am ecstatic.

I have absolute faith that the Shopsmitth can make any rip cut or cross cut I need, whether straight or beveled. I have cut huge sheets of plywood, 8/4 Sapele and lots in between and the Shopsmith has handled it all without issue and at least as well as my stand alone table saw ever did.
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