You can use a shaving to tighten up loose joints.
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Now see ya should of used the liquid hide glue like I suggested. 
You can use a shaving to tighten up loose joints.
You can use a shaving to tighten up loose joints.
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Wood chair repair
I'm about 90% complete rebuilding a chair for my sister. Used "Liquid Hide Glue". In my research as I started, I came across a series on eHow: http://http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_539_glue-wood-chair.html the information was great, gave me confidence to grab my hammer. Last step is the glue blocks that I have yet to remove dowels from.
Folks, this isn't rocket science, the big problem was finding hide glue that wasn't expired.
Long open time, 20+ minutes, damp rag cleanup, missed squeeze out chips off with sharp chisel.
Don't be afraid of this.
Folks, this isn't rocket science, the big problem was finding hide glue that wasn't expired.
Long open time, 20+ minutes, damp rag cleanup, missed squeeze out chips off with sharp chisel.
Don't be afraid of this.
Jim in Bakersfield:D
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Hideglue might have been the right way to go. I can't argue given the situation I created for myself. However, I have recovered.
I was able to pull the loose joints apart a little bit. With the joints pulled open as far as could get them - I drilled a small hole into each loose rung and using a syringe I was able to inject glue into the bottoms of the holes. When I pulled it all back together there was a lot of squeeze out to clean up but I got glue in the joints. That is for sure.
My better half must not be too upset. Her reaction when she saw the chair all together was an immediate invitation to "get started on the other one".
There is still a lot of work to do though. It needs to be cleaned real well and then some sort of finish or oil. This Arizona climate pulls all the moisture right out.
I was able to pull the loose joints apart a little bit. With the joints pulled open as far as could get them - I drilled a small hole into each loose rung and using a syringe I was able to inject glue into the bottoms of the holes. When I pulled it all back together there was a lot of squeeze out to clean up but I got glue in the joints. That is for sure.
My better half must not be too upset. Her reaction when she saw the chair all together was an immediate invitation to "get started on the other one".
There is still a lot of work to do though. It needs to be cleaned real well and then some sort of finish or oil. This Arizona climate pulls all the moisture right out.
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dusty wrote:Hideglue might have been the right way to go. I can't argue given the situation I created for myself. However, I have recovered.
I was able to pull the loose joints apart a little bit. With the joints pulled open as far as could get them - I drilled a small hole into each loose rung and using a syringe I was able to inject glue into the bottoms of the holes. When I pulled it all back together there was a lot of squeeze out to clean up but I got glue in the joints. That is for sure.
AW Shucks, Dusty! Let's face it. You didn't screw up anything, or even cause a disastrous situation. You just proceeded to put together an old (loved) chair in the best way you knew of. So- it took a few extra grunts that weren't expected, but the end result worked.
Nice work ol' fella!!!
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Thanks for that link Jim, it was pretty good info there. TO BAD I didn't have that a couple months ago. 
Here's the corrected link, your had 1 2 many http's in it.
http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_539_glue-wood-chair.html
Here's the corrected link, your had 1 2 many http's in it.
http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_539_glue-wood-chair.html
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Yeah. I learned a lot. The most valuable lesson I learned is I must avoid the "furniture repair business".charlese wrote:AW Shucks, Dusty! Let's face it. You didn't screw up anything, or even cause a disastrous situation. You just proceeded to put together an old (loved) chair in the best way you knew of. So- it took a few extra grunts that weren't expected, but the end result worked.Just think of all the knowledge you gained!!!!!:)
Nice work ol' fella!!!
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Too hard on yourself!
Dusty! You did fine! It's a learning process. Say, as a proffesional restorer, I have a method for what we call "cleanup/touchup". Take some acetone, and some regular old paint thinner, (mixed about half and half),and scrub it down with 0000 steel wool. That will get all the old crud and weak finish off. Then, if you do not really want to impart any color to speak of, just wipe on some poly or thinned varnish. Mop it on, and wait about 10 minutes, then wipe it off with a clean cotton rag. You can use one coat, or as many as you want. If it starts to drag cause it's drying, just dip your wiping rag in a tad of paint thinner. I'd buff it between coats with more dry 0000 wool, after it's REAL dry. Dust it off real good with air. You can really do a nice clean job this way, and I get requests for it all the time. I know this is an older post, but I couldn't resist! Nice old chair. jimsjinx
If you are a part time band leader, does that make you a semi-conductor? Where do all the "unguided" bombs go?
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You could have saved all of that stress and just moved to a wetter climate.
The trouble is you were doing the job for a family member for free (I would hold out for a few new tools) In a commercial shop you can often price undesirable jobs back out the door.
Or at least make damned good money doing them.
In the shoe shop I always disliked (make that hated) putting zippers in tall boots. Some were replacements and others were custom work where the boot never had a zipper before. I jacked the hourly rate way up on those. I still had to do some but if you are making enough money you can enjoy about anything.
When she pushes for the next chair again (and she will
) ask her what is in it for you.
P.S. Don''t forget to duck...
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The trouble is you were doing the job for a family member for free (I would hold out for a few new tools) In a commercial shop you can often price undesirable jobs back out the door.
In the shoe shop I always disliked (make that hated) putting zippers in tall boots. Some were replacements and others were custom work where the boot never had a zipper before. I jacked the hourly rate way up on those. I still had to do some but if you are making enough money you can enjoy about anything.
When she pushes for the next chair again (and she will
P.S. Don''t forget to duck...
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I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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[quote="robinson46176"]You could have saved all of that stress and just moved to a wetter climate.
The trouble is you were doing the job for a family member for free (I would hold out for a few new tools) In a commercial shop you can often price undesirable jobs back out the door.
Or at least make damned good money doing them.
In the shoe shop I always disliked (make that hated) putting zippers in tall boots. Some were replacements and others were custom work where the boot never had a zipper before. I jacked the hourly rate way up on those. I still had to do some but if you are making enough money you can enjoy about anything.
When she pushes for the next chair again (and she will ]
Believe me, my fifty three years with this woman has taught me how and when to duck. What I have yet to learn is how to avoid the need to duck.
The trouble is you were doing the job for a family member for free (I would hold out for a few new tools) In a commercial shop you can often price undesirable jobs back out the door.
In the shoe shop I always disliked (make that hated) putting zippers in tall boots. Some were replacements and others were custom work where the boot never had a zipper before. I jacked the hourly rate way up on those. I still had to do some but if you are making enough money you can enjoy about anything.
When she pushes for the next chair again (and she will ]
Believe me, my fifty three years with this woman has taught me how and when to duck. What I have yet to learn is how to avoid the need to duck.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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