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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:50 pm
by reible
lightnin wrote:OK the video provided by shopsmith kinda says not to use a step drill.
I did not want to suggest to anyone to do differently if they screwed it up
then got a video saying not to do it that way..... then I'm the A%%#LE

I used a diamond wheel myself it was a snap.
The cat is already out of the bag on the step drill, it has been mentioned before here as a great time saver for this operation. Some have even used regular drills going by 1/32" up to the finished size.

So far as anything users post just remember you get what you pay for, and you sure don't pay much for free advice here.

Ed

yea for step drills

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:40 am
by Lancer_28
I did not understand why a step drill did not work for the man doing the upgrade. I think he indicated in the video that the step drill did not work well. I had no problem and was finished in less than 60 secs. Plus it does a nice deburing at the same time.

I agree with the poster that said this a good time to add a step drill to your tool box.:)

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:23 am
by dusty
That hole is being drilled in the motor cover. The motor cover is made from some very stout material that is not the easiest to work with - unless you have the proper tools.

Step drills are great but to drill in this motor cover, they better be sharp.

If I was tasked with drilling that hole, it would have been done with a step drill. I do not understand the warning against using a step drill.

Maybe the engineering staff at Shopsmith will step in here and tell us why they thought the step drill is the wrong tool.

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:15 pm
by backhertz
Using a file to enlarge the hole was a time consuming process. I think grass grows faster than a person using a round file to enlarge the hole. I simply used a drill bit slightly smaller than the template. It was much easier to remove a tiny bit of metal than having to file the hole out completely by hand. The only reason I can think of that a step drill was not used was the possibility of making the hole too large for the plastic strain relief.

I believe the PowerPro upgrade procedure was written for the average person using average tools. Most people have round files and few have step drills. Whatever gets the job done in a safe manner is okay in my book.

I deviated also from the instructions of leaving the old decals on. I used Goo Gone which easily dissolved the adhesive residue without removing any paint. This looked much better to me than trying to align the new decals over the old and it had a pleasant smell.....like oranges.

Step Bit Usage

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:02 pm
by backhertz
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rn_Pt2.htm

Go to the 47 minute mark and you can observe what Nick used to enlarge a motor pan power cord hole to 3/4".

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:50 pm
by reible
backhertz wrote:http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS122/SS122_Shopsmith_Reborn_Pt2.htm

Go to the 47 minute mark and you can observe what Nick used to enlarge a motor pan power cord hole to 3/4".
I could not get the player to fast forward so I sat here for the last 47 minutes to see what I'd guess was going to happen. Hard part was staying awake for 47 minutes so I didn't miss it.

I hadn't watch that video before, it would be a really good one for those that haven't been inside their machine much or at all. Not sure I agreed with some of the things he did but if it works....

Thanks for the efforts finding this.

Ed

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:15 am
by fredsheldon
And I just used progressively larger drills until I got it to the size I wanted and filed the edges clean. Worked like a charm.

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:35 pm
by backhertz
The Saw Dust Sessions were a great source of info for the Mark V. Some of sessions are on You Tube- but not necessarily the entire session. Nick was good. Anyhow, at the 47 minute mark, you can watch Nick use a step drill for a new power cord on a used Brownie project. The old cord was too deteriorated and the new one is larger. So the hole needed to be enlarged. Nick simply took a piece of tape and wrapped it around the bit at the 3/4" mark & then in no time at all, he enlarged the hole.

I found this video & many others on a Sticky in Maintenance & Repair: https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=5092

It's like the mother lode of info on the Mark V.

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:50 pm
by JPG
backhertz wrote:The Saw Dust Sessions were a great source of info for the Mark V. Some of sessions are on You Tube- but not necessarily the entire session. Nick was good. Anyhow, at the 47 minute mark, you can watch Nick use a step drill for a new power cord on a used Brownie project. The old cord was too deteriorated and the new one is larger. So the hole needed to be enlarged. Nick simply took a piece of tape and wrapped it around the bit at the 3/4" mark & then in no time at all, he enlarged the hole.

I found this video & many others on a Sticky in Maintenance & Repair: https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=5092

It's like the mother lode of info on the Mark V.
YEP!

I think we ALL miss MickyD!

He has not reappeared since a trip to AZ where he hooked up with the three musketeers(Gene, Paul, and Richard).

Maybe his swmbo did not like him associating with a bunch of old fogeys!?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:35 pm
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:YEP!

I think we ALL miss MickyD!

He has not reappeared since a trip to AZ where he hooked up with the three musketeers(Gene, Paul, and Richard).

Maybe his swmbo did not like him associating with a bunch of old fogeys!?
Those guys are not no fogeys so there has to be a better explanation. I just hope and pray that all is well with Mickyd. He did not seem to be one to just drop from sight as he has.