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I would be embarrassed to be seen buying one. A my Dad would say,"more money than brains."

Get a log get a piece of lighter pine and you will have a fire for free.

Ed in Tampa wrote:I would be embarrassed to be seen buying one. A my Dad would say,"more money than brains."

Get a log get a piece of lighter pine and you will have a fire for free.

If you dont have your onw woods, where are going to get the log? Steal it?

There are not a lot of options for wood if you live in the city. Los Angeles for instance. A lot of people have fires at the beach. They sell firewood and a lot of people use pallet wood at the beach. Those logs might work well for those folks.
Paul

ERLover wrote:

Ed in Tampa wrote:I would be embarrassed to be seen buying one. A my Dad would say,"more money than brains."

Get a log get a piece of lighter pine and you will have a fire for free.

If you dont have your onw woods, where are going to get the log? Steal it?

I have a ton or three of good Ash logs, thanks to the emerald ash borer. Free to anyone who can use them. But you have to pay for the postage!

Basically those logs act like a fire in a chimney with air being drawn up from below to feed the combustion, not just the air around the flame, a minny forge. They have been using that design in India and other countries were wood is sparse, for cooking, you take a small canister, small an air inlet in the bottom, twigs inside, cooking grate on the top, like a jet engine. My nephew made on for giggles out of one of those small beer kegs of import beer that are a few litters. He explained to me, I know the principal, I said lets fire it up. He put his sap kettle on it with some hand full of twigs and about a half gallon of water in the kettle boiling in a few minutes, faster then a stove. 4lb of h20 at about 60* to 212*, ruffly 600BTUs from some twigs in about 3 minutes.

ERLover wrote:Basically those logs act like a fire in a chimney with air being drawn up from below to feed the combustion, not just the air around the flame, a minny forge. They have been using that design in India and other countries were wood is sparse, for cooking, you take a small canister, small an air inlet in the bottom, twigs inside, cooking grate on the top, like a jet engine. My nephew made on for giggles out of one of those small beer kegs of import beer that are a few litters. He explained to me, I know the principal, I said lets fire it up. He put his sap kettle on it with some hand full of twigs and about a half gallon of water in the kettle boiling in a few minutes, faster then a stove. 4lb of h20 at about 60* to 212*, ruffly 600BTUs from some twigs in about 3 minutes.

A rocket stove. Very efficient. I wanted to make this one a while back but finding one H block was hard. https://youtu.be/kmDYUrVHPWc
Could only find them by the pallet.
Cheaper than the store bought log but more cumbersome to move.

Skizzity wrote:

ERLover wrote:Basically those logs act like a fire in a chimney with air being drawn up from below to feed the combustion, not just the air around the flame, a minny forge. They have been using that design in India and other countries were wood is sparse, for cooking, you take a small canister, small an air inlet in the bottom, twigs inside, cooking grate on the top, like a jet engine. My nephew made on for giggles out of one of those small beer kegs of import beer that are a few litters. He explained to me, I know the principal, I said lets fire it up. He put his sap kettle on it with some hand full of twigs and about a half gallon of water in the kettle boiling in a few minutes, faster then a stove. 4lb of h20 at about 60* to 212*, ruffly 600BTUs from some twigs in about 3 minutes.

A rocket stove. Very efficient. I wanted to make this one a while back but finding one H block was hard. https://youtu.be/kmDYUrVHPWc
Could only find them by the pallet.
Cheaper than the store bought log but more cumbersome to move.

even hotter and faster if you restrict the lower area air flow, chimney effect and sucks in more air, like a blow torch, comes in at a higher velocity, not just a "drift".

So the pioneers got it wrong after all. The best place for a cookpot is on top of the chimney! Go figure.

So what's the best way to bore a hole through the pith of a big ole' firewood-length Ash log? Could be a market for those!

BuckeyeDennis wrote:So the pioneers got it wrong after all. The best place for a cookpot is on top of the chimney! Go figure.

So what's the best way to bore a hole through the pith of a big ole' firewood-length Ash log? Could be a market for those!

If they where in the midwest had an abundance of cooking heating wood, on the prairie an abundance of dried methane, Buffalo Chips, this was developed where there is basically nothing but some twigs, dead grass, leaves,ect

BuckeyeDennis wrote:So the pioneers got it wrong after all. The best place for a cookpot is on top of the chimney! Go figure.

So what's the best way to bore a hole through the pith of a big ole' firewood-length Ash log? Could be a market for those!

Missed that BD about the ash log. The Fire Logs I see look like a Cnc made the cuts. I would not plunge cut with a change saw into end grain, I would not even bar cut a length of hard wood via the end grain to split it, you need a special tooth chain to do it safely, kinda like a cross cut blade to rip on a table saw. Now if you a piece and a chain saw you rip it, you lay it horizontal and rib with the grain, still dangerous, depending on bar length and HP. Like ripping on a TS, without a riffing knife. Just buy one, they are $15 at the grocery stores and 10-12 at the BBS, or was that Bobs BS, JPG?