Correct Greast to Lubricate Electric Motor Rear Bearing?
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I am wondering if the questioner and the manufacturing reps are on the same page. The answer from GE is the one I would expect if the question was about an open frame design. I have been using bearings manufactured by Nachi in Japan and they have a unique design for the seals in their sealed bearings. The seals have a recess where the expanding grease can move to when the bearing gets warm and the grease returns to the interior of the bearing when it cools. If a bearing was to pull grease in to the interior of of the bearing it may very well be pulling in contaminated grease. I do not put any extra grease around sealed bearings as I don't think that it is necessary.
The only grease I use is a very small amount of white lithium grease on the outer shell to ease installation and minimize corrosion that would make the bearing difficult to remove from the recess at a later date.
Bill V
The only grease I use is a very small amount of white lithium grease on the outer shell to ease installation and minimize corrosion that would make the bearing difficult to remove from the recess at a later date.
Bill V
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The old Franklin 3/4 hp, I believe, has 2 different size bearings & I think that's true for the Emerson. I'd either get a caliper or find a friend with one & measure the bearings to find the size.
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trainguytom wrote:The old Franklin 3/4 hp, I believe, has 2 different size bearings & I think that's true for the Emerson. I'd either get a caliper or find a friend with one & measure the bearings to find the size.
I get mine from Us Bearings & belts on ebay & have good prices & service & free shipping.
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OK!! I was working on an Emerson motor today and I believe I know why there is grease in the bearing cup. While trying to assemble the motor the spring washer that is behind the rear bearing does not stay in place when I tried to assemble the cover. A small amount of wheel bearing grease is necessary to hold that washer in place so the cover can be reinstalled.
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Is that a mark V motor you are working on or one from one of the Power Stands? If it is a Mark V motor (1 1/8hp) does it have two bearings or just one bearing and a bushing in the rear?wa2crk wrote:OK!! I was working on an Emerson motor today and I believe I know why there is grease in the bearing cup. While trying to assemble the motor the spring washer that is behind the rear bearing does not stay in place when I tried to assemble the cover. A small amount of wheel bearing grease is necessary to hold that washer in place so the cover can be reinstalled.
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[quote="wa2crk"]Dusty]
Thank you for the reply. I ask because I am about to do a bearing replacement on both of my motors. One is an Emerson and the other an AO Smith.
The Emerson Motor that was in my Crafters Station has a bushing in the back end. I was surprised to find that.
Just trying not to be surprised and/or unprepared when I take down the Mark V.
Thank you for the reply. I ask because I am about to do a bearing replacement on both of my motors. One is an Emerson and the other an AO Smith.
The Emerson Motor that was in my Crafters Station has a bushing in the back end. I was surprised to find that.
Just trying not to be surprised and/or unprepared when I take down the Mark V.
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My power station emerson motor has a bushing in both ends. Yours had a bearing in the shaft end?dusty wrote:Is that a mark V motor you are working on or one from one of the Power Stands? If it is a Mark V motor (1 1/8hp) does it have two bearings or just one bearing and a bushing in the rear?
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Dusty,dusty wrote:Thank you for the reply. I ask because I am about to do a bearing replacement on both of my motors. One is an Emerson and the other an AO Smith.
The Emerson Motor that was in my Crafters Station has a bushing in the back end. I was surprised to find that.
Just trying not to be surprised and/or unprepared when I take down the Mark V.
I know just what you need to keep you up and running while you have your motors down for maintenance
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