Introduction and Question on SS Mark V-B Machine

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:12 pm

I think that allen screw is a 5/16"-18x3/8" Black Oxide Alloy Steel Knurled Cup Point Socket Set Screw? From Dusty's listing, item #45.

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:17 pm

Also make sure your 5/32's allen wrench isn't rounded. Ya might have to grind it a little to renew it.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:40 pm

Since that set screw has obviously not been touched since it left Dayton(or nearby), there should be nothing wrong with it.

Remember why you are attempting to remove it. I assume you want to make the quill so it moves/returns easily and smoothly. Getting that done will require removing the quill from the headstock. That screw is what prevents the quill form advancing too far(off the end of the quill gears rack). The screw also prevents the quill from rotating in the headstock bore since the half dog point rides in a groove(keyway) in the top of the quill.

If you have not already watched Nick remove the quill etc., do so before starting to remove the quill.

wa2crk · Post by **wa2crk** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:51 pm

You may want to get this item when you send in an order
515325 Shopsmith Help Kit ... $34.70
It has all the unusual set screws
Bill V

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:32 pm

Thanks JPG. I have watched that and numerous other videos online to learn more. I have watched some of Doug Reids and Nick Englers's videos. Is Nick still around?

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:33 pm

Thanks Bill. I plan on getting that soon too.

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:35 pm

dusty wrote:Yes. By all means get a new one when you do finally get this one out.

The part number for the part you will need is 501634. It is a half dog flat.

The parts list is available here. The item you are looking for is item #44 in the headstock parts list.

OR

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/fa ... 20Steel%22$|~

Thanks Dusty and to give everyone an update I have gotten it loose enough to where I can now get it out. Dusty the link to Fastenal you gave does not show the screw. Is it correct? Thanks to you and everyone who helped with their suggestions. It is greatly appreciated.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:18 am

Fred Grover wrote:Thanks Dusty and to give everyone an update I have gotten it loose enough to where I can now get it out. Dusty the link to Fastenal you gave does not show the screw. Is it correct? Thanks to you and everyone who helped with their suggestions. It is greatly appreciated.

It should work now.

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:11 am

Thanks Dusty and yes it is working now. I wish Shopsmith had a reference manual to all of their screw sizes for all of their parts. Is there any kind of Service/Repair Manuals that you know of ? Something like when they had Stores and Authorized Repair Shops or Dealers or something ?

I did find the screw at a local place online (Fastenal) thanks for the idea and link to the size of it. I just need to go and see if they have it on hand now.

Truly appreciate the help.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:25 am

Fred Grover wrote:Thanks Dusty and yes it is working now. I wish Shopsmith had a reference manual to all of their screw sizes for all of their parts. Is there any kind of Service/Repair Manuals that you know of ? Something like when they had Stores and Authorized Repair Shops or Dealers or something ?

I did find the screw at a local place online (Fastenal) thanks for the idea and link to the size of it. I just need to go and see if they have it on hand now.

Truly appreciate the help.

Fastenol has a website where you can order online. I have never used it however.

To answer your question: No, Shopsmith has never, to my knowledge, offered a parts list description that was complete enough to allow one to order parts from other than Shopsmith (they provide a Shopsmith PN but no detailed description).

The descriptions that I included in the chart that I put in this thread were developed by using what Shopsmith did provide and then by looking at my own machines.

The information can not be guaranteed. Shopsmith has provided no input other than what is contained in their various parts lists.

The Shopsmith Help Kit provides only a small portion of parts (set screws) actually used.

Following is a list of set screws not included in the Help Kit:

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The number in column 2 is the Item # from the respective item in the Shopsmith Exploded Parts View. Again, the description is a composite of information gathered together here by me. If you use this information, you do so at your own risk.