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Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:50 pm
by reible
Keep in mind that the shopsmith tubes are plated to prevent rust and things like DOM are not. Another option is stainless steel for corrosion prevention.
Some place back in my notes I was looking at tubing that is for ships, nice stainless (Type 304 Stainless Steel with Super Buff Finish) and came in 5 foot lengths, .065 (16ga) wall and at the time 6.95 a foot. The cost was $69.50 plus shipping to my zip of $11.48. $89.98 for the pair.
I did not order them but I'm sure you can find as good a deal if not better if you look around. I would not think untreated steel is a good idea, if you do you want something with high nickel/chromium content not a plain carbon steel.
But do as you like.
Ed
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:56 pm
by jsburger
JPG wrote:After googling the address, I realize I been there before!
So what does that mean?
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:00 pm
by jsburger
reible wrote:Keep in mind that the shopsmith tubes are plated to prevent rust and things like DOM are not. Another option is stainless steel for corrosion prevention.
Some place back in my notes I was looking at tubing that is for ships, nice stainless (Type 304 Stainless Steel with Super Buff Finish) and came in 5 foot lengths, .065 (16ga) wall and at the time 6.95 a foot. The cost was $69.50 plus shipping to my zip of $11.48. $89.98 for the pair.
I did not order them but I'm sure you can find as good a deal if not better if you look around. I would not think untreated steel is a good idea, if you do you want something with high nickel/chromium content not a plain carbon steel.
But do as you like.
Ed
OK, $70 for half the wall thickness and 5' lengths priced when?. Their 1" dia by .120 wall 304 stainless is $103 for two 6' lengths. Sounds good to me. I know shipping but we will see.
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:03 pm
by JPG
jsburger wrote:JPG wrote:After googling the address, I realize I been there before!
So what does that mean?
It means only that I have previously been a customer of theirs.
Easy to deal with - walk in - specify what I wanted - paid - went out to the 'shop' and watched them cut to length - put in car and drove home. No hassle!!!
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:06 pm
by jsburger
JPG wrote:jsburger wrote:JPG wrote:After googling the address, I realize I been there before!
So what does that mean?
It means only that I have previously been a customer of theirs.
Easy to deal with - walk in - specify what I wanted - paid - went out to the 'shop' and watched them cut to length - put in car and drove home. No hassle!!!
So a satisfied customer. Good to know. It looks like SS tubes will be on the way.
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:24 pm
by reible
Same price I got before. Take a look here:
http://www.sailrite.com/Thick-Wall-Tubi ... all-Tubing
In the note box enter 5 (for 5 feet) and in the quantity box enter 2. You can enter your zip to get a shipping estimate.
Ed
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:11 am
by garys
I have a pair of these and am very happy with them. They are high quality T304 polished stainless steel so rust is never an issue. They have .083 wall thickness so they are quite rigid.
https://www.grainger.com/product/Tubing ... Pid=search
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:40 am
by br549
dynabase wrote:So 3/4 Rigid is the way to go.
At first, I would have agreed (because of a lack of other information), but now I don't think so. Missing in this discussion has been the actual I.D. of the fence rails. Looking back at a recent thread started by JPG (
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... 19808.html), perhaps the I.D.'s of the fence rails need to be clearly stated, and then any alternatives to the SS connecting tubes (or other suppliers of 1" O.D. tubing) can be better judged.
If these dimensions are not correct, someone please chime in:
SS Connecting Tubes: 1" O.D.
SS 510 Fence Rails (earlier or older version): 1.012" I.D.
SS 510 Fence Rails (later or newer version):
1.060" I.D.
(Corrected 4/18/17)
If these dimensions are correct, then 3/4" EMT @ 0.922" O.D. looks to be the safest bet for all 510 models. 3/4" IMC @ 1.029" O.D.
or 3/4" Rigid @ 1.050" O.D. MIGHT work if you have the newer 510 version rails with their slightly larger I.D.
of 1.060". (Edited 4/18/17)
Missing from this also is what is the maximum size circular opening inside of the 520's extruded fence rail.
Thanks to Dusty for his drawing of 520 Extruded Rails which indicate a maximum opening of 1.031" (1-1/32"). (Edited 4/18/17)
I don't think anyone would disagree that a true 1" O.D. tube would be ideal, in some sort of corrosion resistant material or finish, but having other less expensive options such as conduit is also a good thing for many users.
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:17 am
by dusty
I don't know why it makes a difference since the extension tubes with a 1" OD fit into either the old or new table rails but the ID of my 510 rails is 1.061".
Re: 510/520 table connector tube length
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:30 am
by br549
dusty wrote:... the ID of my 510 rails is 1.061".
I forget .. are yours the older or the newer version?
That's considerably more than I had deduced from JPG's other post for either version. Curious and anxious to hear what other 510 owners' are.