The newer style casters also use the roll pins on each end to hold the "assembly" together. The "upgrade" is the addition of a flat head screw in each end of the shaft that the cams are on. The screws go through the end castings into their respective ends of the shaft. See the picture in my previous post.dusty wrote:Are these the casters that are being discussed here. If so, the only thing that holds the entire assembly together as a caster set is the roll pin in the lower right of the attached photo and a second pin on the other side.
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This is obviously the "old" style caster.
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Remember to do this regardless of which 'version' you have!;)SDSSmith wrote:The newer style casters have flat head socket screws in the end of the cam shafts. These screws go through the castings and keep the shafts in the casting. If you have the newer castings, either the screw is missing or it has sheared off. I am not sure this is a better design than the old style casters. If you have the older style casters then you might try flipping your machine and check to see if the legs have become bent or distorted. If this is the cast then the legs will need to be "reshaped".
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I think you've found the problem. On one end of the shaft, the screw is missing; on th eother, there is a broken screw (%$#%) in there that I need to extract somehow. I'll work on that tonight.SDSSmith wrote:The newer style casters also use the roll pins on each end to hold the "assembly" together. The "upgrade" is the addition of a flat head screw in each end of the shaft that the cams are on. The screws go through the end castings into their respective ends of the shaft. See the picture in my previous post.
This probably explains why it worked well for quite a while then once it failed, it repeatedly fails.
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I be curious WHY after all these decades(3 score!) without a 'retaining screw' the camshaft has this 'issue'.
Is the shaft shorter???? Is its socket shallower????
Is the shaft shorter???? Is its socket shallower????
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I find these replies very interesting. a couple of years ago I acquired a used power stand. Recently I decided to add the caster set. Shopsmith had them available. Upon receipt I installed them and discover one would not stay in place (consistently fell out). The gentleman at Shopsmith suggest I switch the positions from one side to the other to determine it wasn't the housing. It was the caster itself and the replacement cured the situation. fjimp
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Check with Ed in Tampa. I bet he has the exact replacement screw for the caster. 
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Orrrr Anything ELSE!:DSplinters N Chips wrote:Check with Ed in Tampa. I bet he has the exact replacement screw for the caster.
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SDSSmith wrote:Good to hear, those screws are not very big and can be a pain to remove the remnants from the hole.
Yes they are, couldn't do it without cursing a few times...
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