Enlarged Table System
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Pictures will follow, Ed. I will try to answer your questions though. At least part of them.
You ask about the middle support. In post #15 of this thread there is a link to another thread where you can find the details for how the support leg is attached both to the Shopsmith and to the under side of the table. I deviated from what is detailed there for the under side of the table. This time I just have a block of wood with a hole for the leg.
That could most definitely be done. In fact it has been done by a member (Earl) whose last name escapes me right now. There is a thread here somewhere that details his table as well.
The side supports could certainly be extended so that they begin at the front rail, extend past the rear rail and then to the outfeed end the of outfeed table. It would be more stable BUT would also be more difficult to store and to handle.
I'll find a picture that I have of a wooded version of what I think you are describing.
You ask about the middle support. In post #15 of this thread there is a link to another thread where you can find the details for how the support leg is attached both to the Shopsmith and to the under side of the table. I deviated from what is detailed there for the under side of the table. This time I just have a block of wood with a hole for the leg.
That could most definitely be done. In fact it has been done by a member (Earl) whose last name escapes me right now. There is a thread here somewhere that details his table as well.
The side supports could certainly be extended so that they begin at the front rail, extend past the rear rail and then to the outfeed end the of outfeed table. It would be more stable BUT would also be more difficult to store and to handle.
I'll find a picture that I have of a wooded version of what I think you are describing.
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Here is the outfeed table of all outfeed tables and you can have it. All you have to do is come and get it or tell me to ship it and send the postage.
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This one employs your concept of reaching across to the infeed rail for support. It actually worked quit well especially for large sheet materials BUT it is not easy to set up and takes up a lot of space.
This was my first attempt.
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This one employs your concept of reaching across to the infeed rail for support. It actually worked quit well especially for large sheet materials BUT it is not easy to set up and takes up a lot of space.
This was my first attempt.
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In an attempt to answer your question about the center support, I am attaching these two images. I hope these answer your questions.
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I can see why this one would be so obnoxious given its size, and fixed design, but it seems like a modular approach could provide the same benefits without the detractors. perhaps the two side rails would be bridged by notched boards. Thus it would basically be a set of 4-8 boards in the corner when not in use.dusty wrote:This one employs your concept of reaching across to the infeed rail for support. It actually worked quit well especially for large sheet materials BUT it is not easy to set up and takes up a lot of space.
This was my first attempt.
I suppose there could be some concern for it not being perfectly flat though.
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If storage is the issue and yet a large table is required - Earl Morton had the solution.
Somewhere here on the forum is a posting of his that shows the details of his design. I thought it was a really neat solution.
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Somewhere here on the forum is a posting of his that shows the details of his design. I thought it was a really neat solution.
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[quote="dusty"]I have not yet completed the rebuild of my Height Adjustable Tilting Out Feed Table to increase its size but it is getting there. I needed outfeed table support this week so I hurried assembly.
It along with a couple floating extension tables certainly eliminates the complaint of "Table Too Small". I had a couple sheets (60" x 60") of baltic birch plywood to cut and it certainly did the job.
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Notice the two pieces of train rail sitting on the out feed table. Together they weigh about 14 pounds]
Is that 1x4 strips under a 1/2" of baltic birch?
It along with a couple floating extension tables certainly eliminates the complaint of "Table Too Small". I had a couple sheets (60" x 60") of baltic birch plywood to cut and it certainly did the job.
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Notice the two pieces of train rail sitting on the out feed table. Together they weigh about 14 pounds]
Is that 1x4 strips under a 1/2" of baltic birch?
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dusty wrote:The attached drawing contains what I now believe to be the correct dimensional values.
DO NOT REPLICATE
Drawing removed because it contains errors.
Hi Dusty,
Are you going to publish a new drawing ?
I saved the previous one but as I was going to replicate it, lucky me, I saw your warning today and only because I re-read the thread before doing anything.
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The drawing to which you refer can be used to build the brackets AND if you are using any of the older 505/510/520 tables there will be no problem.camerio wrote:Hi Dusty,
Are you going to publish a new drawing ?
I saved the previous one but as I was going to replicate it, lucky me, I saw your warning today and only because I re-read the thread before doing anything.
The problem arises if you have one of the newer 510 tables; the ones with a rectangular protrusion in each of the four side corners. These protrusions are somehow used during the manufacture of the table. That protrusion interferes with the brackets is built per the drawing. All that needs to be done to eliminate the issue is mill off the interfering corners of the brackets.
If the rail holes are drilled in a location different than what shows in the drawing, the material that needs to be removed will vary. It is this inconsistency that has delayed my republishing the drawing.
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I've got a small hole in each side corner. On the right side when facing the table, there is a yellow plastic patch covering a hole that would be more like a 1/2 inch beside the same small (about 1/4 inch) hole as in the other. My shopsmith dates around 1992. I could not see the protusions that you were talking about. May be I do not understand what you mean. I upgraded my table each time and got the new pro fence as well.
I look at each picture and will try to make the same extension.
The internet is very slow tonight in my area so I will not try to post a picture, but I think I will not have the problem that you were talking about.
I look at each picture and will try to make the same extension.
The internet is very slow tonight in my area so I will not try to post a picture, but I think I will not have the problem that you were talking about.
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The small holes in the corner side walls indicate that you have an older version of the main table. I have that as well. The brackets should work on your table if built to that drawing.camerio wrote:I've got a small hole in each side corner. On the right side when facing the table, there is a yellow plastic patch covering a hole that would be more like a 1/2 inch beside the same small (about 1/4 inch) hole as in the other. My shopsmith dates around 1992. I could not see the protusions that you were talking about. May be I do not understand what you mean. I upgraded my table each time and got the new pro fence as well.
I look at each picture and will try to make the same extension.
The internet is very slow tonight in my area so I will not try to post a picture, but I think I will not have the problem that you were talking about.
I'm pleased to know that someone is building a pair of these.
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