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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:25 pm
by mrhart
The lady who I got the ER from, had the original paperwork sent to me!

original owners manual
packing list
variable speed changer chart on a small card
magna engineering 'blueprint" for a stand rack for shopsmith attachments
8x10 speed chart on thick card stock paper
1 page manuals that came with the extra
variable speed changer
caster ass
bench
jointer
shaper fence
shopsmith adjustment 3 page insert "magna" on the back
3-July 1952 accessories catalogs (4 page) with pricing-one diff but no date
shopsmith shavings issies 1 thru 9 (number five is dated jan 52)

Its all been kept in an envelope for years. This may be nothing new for most, but I like having the history and the priginal paperwork is cool.
If any of this is hard to find, I can take and post a pic, let me know.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:37 pm
by 2bits
Stanley Idaho? I was in that neighborhood back in 85 or 86. Big wildfire season for the area back then. It seemed like everyone was a two vehicle family, either a jeep or Landcruiser and a snowmobile:D I spent portions of many summers up there. Loved the country (hated to see how much damage the fires could do). I used to have the t-shirt "I survived the Stanley Fire. I would hope things have recovered pretty well since then.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:09 pm
by chucks
mrhart wrote:
magna engineering 'blueprint" for a stand rack for shopsmith attachments

This one I would definitely be interested in seeing.....Thanks

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:21 pm
by mrhart
chucks wrote:This one I would definitely be interested in seeing.....Thanks

Sorry for the delay, baseball season you know. :o


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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:09 pm
by SDSSmith
mrhart wrote:
The mortise hold down is geenie green, so not original? What is the golgie gold part for?

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The golgie gold part is the mortising attachment and is used to hold the mortising chisel.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:30 pm
by mrhart
SDSSmith wrote:The golgie gold part is the mortising attachment and is used to hold the mortising chisel.

My excitement didn't type well. I knew what it was, just wondering how I ended up with one gold and one green piece and I thought it was an original purchase. After further review, that looks like the only thing he did not buy new at the time. Must of added those later on, I'm guessing the green paint was indictative of the green years, gold ect.
No chisels though.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:12 pm
by SDSSmith
mrhart wrote:My excitement didn't type well. I knew what it was, just wondering how I ended up with one gold and one green piece and I thought it was an original purchase. After further review, that looks like the only thing he did not buy new at the time. Must of added those later on, I'm guessing the green paint was indictative of the green years, gold ect.
No chisels though.
The original ER versions of the mortising attachments are a dark gray like the machine's color. Anyway, you got yourself a nice looking machine.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:54 pm
by mrhart
Any help on the year of the machine?
pic on post 24

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:12 am
by mrhart
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3999

Thanks to links on this thread by Mickyd I have found not only the date range Nov 51 aprox, but also that it had been registered with Skip Cambell for that survey, the original owner. :)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:38 am
by rpd
mrhart wrote:Any help on the year of the machine?
pic on post 24
To my knowledge there isn't any surviving official documentation on this.

That said the evidence we do have points to 1952.

- The "solid" upper saw guard was introduced in April 1951, (older guards had slots).*
- The angled rip fence lock knob was introduce in Feb. 1952, (older fences had an horizontal knob)*
- Can't see in any of your photos but I suspect you also have "long slot" extension table bracket (also introduced in Feb 1952)*
Photos of these differences are shown here http://www.mkctools.com/10ersurvey.htm
* This information was found on the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shopsmith10ERusers in Files/ 10ER Survey/ 10ER Survery Header info.txt
also check out 10erfactorymods.txt. in the same folder.
Note, you will have to join the Shopsmith10ERusers group to access these files.
Another fact gleaned from that file was that the "R" in front of your serial number indicates it was manufactured in the San Francisco plant ("E" indicated the Cleveland plant)'

From the file 10ERsurveyER.xls (same folder)

- SN-40340 was purchased in 1951
- SN-61705 was purchased in Dec 1952
- SN-72628 was purchased in Sept 1952

It is interesting to note your 10ER SN-60783 was entered in the survey by the PO, Dale Sisson.

- You received "3-July 1952 accessories catalogs " with the collection of docs

So best guess would be Spring of 1952. I was also assembled in 1952 so it was obviously a very good year.;)

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