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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:33 am
by dusty
mrhart wrote:There is over 100 postings now.

Who is this Deb and Martin or whoever they are talking about??

I don't know who Martin is but Deb I believe is a Moderator. A very active member, I might add. Look up her profile and projects.

I suspect Martin is a Moderator also.

Well, I was sorta right.

Here is the "team" that keeps it running at LJ.

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:44 am
by JPG
IMHO if those clowns would stop baiting him there would be less dust flying.

i.e. 'They' are part of the problem!;)

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:46 am
by terrydowning
The tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist in me wonders if they're the same person. They always show in the same threads attacking each other. It could be a cheap stunt to funnel people to their site that hawks whatever they hawk. Neither has any projects or blogs or anything of substance really.

Very annoying.

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:01 pm
by Ed in Tampa
Frankly the thread in question on the Lumber Jocks site reinforces my total lack of desire to post or read any forum other than this one.

If you read that thread it is full of misinformation, speculation, opinion and people that don't know which end of a saw to hold giving "expert" advice.

I love the part where people say this type of saw is so much more accurate than that type of saw. As if actual saw construction, blade, fence, initial setup and alignment, and user skill had nothing to do with it.

I have seen relatively cheap portable saws that cut fives times more accurate and smoother than a poorly build, poorly adjusted, poorly used more costly table saws.

It is usually these "experts" that summarily discount the Shopsmith as a serious wood working machine.

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:39 pm
by ryanbp01
[quote="Ed in Tampa"]Frankly the thread in question on the Lumber Jocks site reinforces my total lack of desire to post or read any forum other than this one.
QUOTE]

Ed-

Thanks for voicing my sentiments exactly!
BPR

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:49 pm
by shipwright
Please don't judge too quickly. Lumberjocks is a great site. When you have 60,000 members and you don't moderate the life out of the forum, you can't avoid a few squabbling children. I stay mostly in the project posting and blog areas and almost never see the "children". They tend to hang out in the forums and especially in the "coffee lounge" forum. There is a huge amount of valuable information and inspiration to be had there and you shouldn't let an experience like this to keep you away.

Just my opinion of course

Paul M

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:56 pm
by mgbbob
I agree with Ed. I just went throught and did a complete alignment check on my Shopsmith and I adjusted the Craftsman during the rebuild project. Once the saws are operating properly good results will happen. I noticed the Shopsmith seemed to be off a bit while cutting some shelves for a recent project. Sure enough it needed a tune up. I had never completely went through the process since I purchased the machine a year or so ago. The guy told me he had just checked everything. things may have moved in the moving process.

It is kinda like target shooting. Most of my firearms will out shoot the owner.

Bob

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:33 pm
by Ed in Tampa
shipwright wrote:Please don't judge too quickly. Lumberjocks is a great site. When you have 60,000 members and you don't moderate the life out of the forum, you can't avoid a few squabbling children. I stay mostly in the project posting and blog areas and almost never see the "children". They tend to hang out in the forums and especially in the "coffee lounge" forum. There is a huge amount of valuable information and inspiration to be had there and you shouldn't let an experience like this to keep you away.

Just my opinion of course

Paul M
Paul
My comment was not a blanket indictment of the Lumber Jocks site just the forum and I extended my comments to most other forums.

I’m not a fan of Lumber Jocks, nor am I opposed to it. Usually I only go there when I'm following a link given here on the SS forum.

I like the Shopsmith forum because most of the guys on here either know what they are talking about or keep quiet and learn. Some even risk asking really good questions.

What I don’t like on any forum is where people, that nobody listens to in real life for one reason or another, come on the forum as an “expert” and pontificate about things they simply don’t know a thing about.

Troll Hunting Blog by Stumpy Nubs

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:47 pm
by STB
mrhart wrote:I browse at the LJ site at night sometimes before I go to bed. I posted my first question there, "Table Saw Recommendations". I stated I am a SS user and love my equipment, however the table saw always feels too tall for me and I feel unsafe when reaching over the table for my work.
So a simple question, what models do you all recommend.

I opened pandoras box...holy crap.:eek: Read it if you get the chance. I posted it in the forums, under powertool reviews I think.

I'm glad there isn't people here like that, and if there were, I think Admin would shut em down.


Sidenote: I'm NOT selling ANY SS stuff, I just think about things. :)
I followed this thread when it was active. I also looked at the original thread on LJ. One of my thoughts,while reading the LJ form, was "are some of these posters actually woodworkers". Don't get me wrong there is some very good information on the LJ form.
I think The Stumpy Nub Troll Hunting blog may have just have hit the nail on the head so to speak.
http://www.stumpynubs.com/blog.html

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:54 am
by tgamel
mrhart wrote:There is over 100 postings now.

Who is this Deb and Martin or whoever they are talking about??
Yea, just got back from looking over there, just a little over 30 posts before they started getting nasty. I have been on sites like that before when I was looking to get my first Shopsmith. The amount of loathing many expressed for the SS mainly for it's small table when used as a table saw kinda made me smile after I found that many of the so called 'professional carpenters' that were really bashing the SS, used small portable table saws on the job site that have tables that are the same size or smaller than the SS. Oh the irony of ignorance that a closed mind will exhibit.