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Ed in Tampa wrote:

reible wrote:It is also food safe, like toasting marshmallows for smores, not sure how well a $10 bill would work for that.

I believe that it is also OK to transport one of these logs from area to area while some places don't want you bring wood from another area that could have insects....... some places require you to buy/acquire wood local.

My brother tells me that in WI you need a permits/licenses for all sort of fire wood related items. He use to have a shed where he would sell fire wood but no more, too many regulations etc.

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/invasives/firewood.html

I think he also told me that when an area is logged that you need a permit to pick up the scrap or was it just for birch???

Anyway too many for some people to deal with so why not spend the $10 and get a log to enjoy. Thinking about how much movie tickets or eating out costs a night by a burning log with family and friends for $10 is a bargain.

Ed

You are right and you gave me an idea, special dirt to sit on around the camp fire. Only $10 a 50 lb bag. Think,of it certified dirt to put down and have a nice Bon fire with family and friends. Oh oh got another idea what is camp fire without insects. I will sell you 100 ants for $20 bucks or an assortment of ants and flying bugs, including mosquitos and moths for $50

Ed it aint the ants it the Mosquitoes up here, get off your cheap soap box b4 it collapses, $10 is a cheap night with the kids and wife, take your grandchildren to Disney Land for a day!!! I bet if you do tip when you do go out, if you do, you a 10% tipper if that, its 15-20% NOW

ERLover wrote:

Ed in Tampa wrote:

reible wrote:It is also food safe, like toasting marshmallows for smores, not sure how well a $10 bill would work for that.

I believe that it is also OK to transport one of these logs from area to area while some places don't want you bring wood from another area that could have insects....... some places require you to buy/acquire wood local.

My brother tells me that in WI you need a permits/licenses for all sort of fire wood related items. He use to have a shed where he would sell fire wood but no more, too many regulations etc.

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/invasives/firewood.html

I think he also told me that when an area is logged that you need a permit to pick up the scrap or was it just for birch???

Anyway too many for some people to deal with so why not spend the $10 and get a log to enjoy. Thinking about how much movie tickets or eating out costs a night by a burning log with family and friends for $10 is a bargain.

Ed

You are right and you gave me an idea, special dirt to sit on around the camp fire. Only $10 a 50 lb bag. Think,of it certified dirt to put down and have a nice Bon fire with family and friends. Oh oh got another idea what is camp fire without insects. I will sell you 100 ants for $20 bucks or an assortment of ants and flying bugs, including mosquitos and moths for $50

Ed it aint the ants it the Mosquitoes up here, get off your cheap soap box b4 it collapses, $10 is a cheap night with the kids and wife, take your grandchildren to Disney Land for a day!!! I bet if you do tip when you do go out, if you do, you a 10% tipper if that, its 15-20% NOW

When I hunted moose in Quebec back in the 80's it was black flies. No running water. About once a week we would heat up water and take a sponge bath. We spent 30 days in the bush. When you walk in the bush the black flies are amassing. Once you have been there a week without modern soap they are not a problem.

ERLover wrote:

Ed in Tampa wrote:

reible wrote:It is also food safe, like toasting marshmallows for smores, not sure how well a $10 bill would work for that.

I believe that it is also OK to transport one of these logs from area to area while some places don't want you bring wood from another area that could have insects....... some places require you to buy/acquire wood local.

My brother tells me that in WI you need a permits/licenses for all sort of fire wood related items. He use to have a shed where he would sell fire wood but no more, too many regulations etc.

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/invasives/firewood.html

I think he also told me that when an area is logged that you need a permit to pick up the scrap or was it just for birch???

Anyway too many for some people to deal with so why not spend the $10 and get a log to enjoy. Thinking about how much movie tickets or eating out costs a night by a burning log with family and friends for $10 is a bargain.

Ed

You are right and you gave me an idea, special dirt to sit on around the camp fire. Only $10 a 50 lb bag. Think,of it certified dirt to put down and have a nice Bon fire with family and friends. Oh oh got another idea what is camp fire without insects. I will sell you 100 ants for $20 bucks or an assortment of ants and flying bugs, including mosquitos and moths for $50

Ed it aint the ants it the Mosquitoes up here, get off your cheap soap box b4 it collapses, $10 is a cheap night with the kids and wife, take your grandchildren to Disney Land for a day!!! I bet if you do tip when you do go out, if you do, you a 10% tipper if that, its 15-20% NOW

Actually I'm a generous tipper or so I have told. But that is not the point. The point is we have become dependent on technology we have to buy a gimmick to have camp fire. During desert storm I had a friend laughing about the Iraqians baking bread in bee hive ovens in their back yard because all power was out. I asked him where he would get his bread if our power grids went down? Did he or his wife know how to build a bee hive oven or how to bake bread in one. Needless to says that wiped the smile off his face.

I would hope an product such as this would cause us all concern to wonder where our ability to survive has gone. I also hope it would concern us to know people are willing to pay $10 to burn while children are going hungry, while seniors must choose between eating or their drugs.

I don't have a problem with people working and making money and living the good life. I have problems when people waste it, in the name of pleasure.

There I'm off the soap box.

Tampa Ed, I totally miss read your feelings/emotions Like I have said, internet/ email ect has no connotations of voice. I agree with your last post, just 2 many quotes to be able to quote it.
Glad to here you arnt a cheap tipper, but $10 for a log for a suburban family that mom and dad work all week and a couple kids to sit and watch is a bargain FOR THEM!!!!

john B in Quebec it took you 30 days to get a Moose? Or were looking for a 50+ spread? They are a dime a dozen up there, like Wood Land Caribou.

ERLover wrote:john B in Quebec it took you 30 days to get a Moose? Or were looking for a 50+ spread? They are a dime a dozen up there, like Wood Land Caribou.

FWIW 'Michael' Ego has nothing to do with 'being correct'. One either is or they ain't.

Denying that someone else is 'correct' is often the result of ego.


Now 'opinion' is a different matter!

JPG wrote:

ERLover wrote:john B in Quebec it took you 30 days to get a Moose? Or were looking for a 50+ spread? They are a dime a dozen up there, like Wood Land Caribou.

FWIW 'Michael' Ego has nothing to do with 'being correct'. One either is or they ain't.

Denying that someone else is 'correct' is often the result of ego.


Now 'opinion' is a different matter!

I missed you today, off to the casino???

ERLover wrote:

JPG wrote:

ERLover wrote:john B in Quebec it took you 30 days to get a Moose? Or were looking for a 50+ spread? They are a dime a dozen up there, like Wood Land Caribou.

FWIW 'Michael' Ego has nothing to do with 'being correct'. One either is or they ain't.

Denying that someone else is 'correct' is often the result of ego.


Now 'opinion' is a different matter!

I missed you today, off to the casino???

Nope!

Teaching an AARP Smart Driver Course today.

There are pursuits other than SS!

I commend you JPG for doing that, mom drove at 95, last summer only during the day in her little routes and she knew her limitations.

It is interesting how times have changed. When and where I grew up we put up firewood for the winter. Either fallen trees from our property or ones that people were willing to part with. My uncle across the street would dump off about half our supply when he cleared lots(part of his business).

Then the the local saw mill guy would go place to place with his portable saw mill. It was driven off a car that was jacked up and a special homemade hub attached in place of a tire to drive the saw. Manual labor of picking up logs and putting them on a carriage which tilted in to this massive circular saw blade. They would make a cut about every 16-18" for us but that was all up to what people wanted.

Once cut they were picked up and stacked dried for a while before we split it and threw them into the basement for burning as a winter heating supplement. Splitting was done mostly with an axe, sometime with the addition of a wedge. It would take a lot of time to do the splitting and sometimes we didn't get it all done and had to put whole pieces into the stove which was OK if they were not too big in diameter. If they were too big for that you had to split them in the basement........ not easy as the ceiling wasn't high enough for a good full swing of the axe.

I can't even guess how many hours it took to do the winters wood but it was a lot.

The main heat was fuel oil burning in a space heater/stove if you will. The problem there was that fuel oil stops flowing (if I recall correctly) at some where around -35 deg. The main tanks were outside but we had a small tank inside that could be filled giving you 8-10 hours of heating. Most times that was fine as it would work enough during the day to refill and run the heater.

The wood was for the combo kitchen stove that had the option of wood or coal or gas. The cold mornings we closed off the kitchen and heated that with wood in that stove. My mom would use the wood for cooking for a lot of the year as it was cheap.

The major wood was used in a barrel stove that resided in the basement. We would fire that up about 4 in the afternoon and put the last logs in around 10:00. Cut back the air and you would get a lower amount of heat but it would burn longer. Sometime in the early am it would go out and by the time you got up it was pretty cold in the house. If you closed the bedroom doors it would get down to about 30 degrees on a cold night. You slept under the covers and when you woke up you got dressed and got out of there as fast as you could. The bathroom wasn't too warm either but a lot warmer then the bedroom...... the warm place was the kitchen. Thanks to my mom getting up early and firing up the stove. The smell of wood smoke and coffee was always welcome even if I didn't drink coffee at the time.

Yes those good old days when we were a lot more self sufficient. Love to remember them but wouldn't like to relive them.

When I would complain about how cold it was in the house she would relate stores of how she grew up in Montana where the homestead wasn't even snow tight. Then they woke up the idea was to throw the blankets back so the snow would fall away but then a bed held a few kids which helped with staying warm...... She was glad we had a nice sealed up house with wood to burn.

I'm sure a few of you grew up in similar conditions, still remember when we got running water and indoor plumbing. So you will have to excuse me if I'm not much of a technology luddite.

Ed