This quote is taken directly off his website's homepage, "Have you heard? Shopsmith is no longer servicing conventional headstocks and discontinued SPTs (Power Stations, Jigsaws, etc.) They are still doing factory repairs on power pro headstocks and in-production SPT’s. This will not have any effect on availability of repair parts whatsoever. Parts will still be made available and kept in inventory."kd6vpe wrote:Well no call back yet, so any questions about parts are unknown. I forgot to mention I was told to Google power pro repair and I did get an interesting hit. http://Www.shopsmithrepair.com
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Opening up the Power Pro head
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WileyCoyote
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
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Interestingly, the link for Shopsmith Factory Repair Service is dead.
https://www.shopsmith.com/service/shopsmith_repairs.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/service/shopsmith_repairs.htm
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JPG
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
Yet another unique thing about SS that has been tossed aside.algale wrote:Interestingly, the link for Shopsmith Factory Repair Service is dead.
https://www.shopsmith.com/service/shopsmith_repairs.htm
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
Let's finish this statement from James:WileyCoyote wrote:This quote is taken directly off his website's homepage, "Have you heard? Shopsmith is no longer servicing conventional headstocks and discontinued SPTs (Power Stations, Jigsaws, etc.) They are still doing factory repairs on power pro headstocks and in-production SPT’s. This will not have any effect on availability of repair parts whatsoever. Parts will still be made available and kept in inventory."kd6vpe wrote:Well no call back yet, so any questions about parts are unknown. I forgot to mention I was told to Google power pro repair and I did get an interesting hit. http://Www.shopsmithrepair.com
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That last statement is very disturbing to me. This company seems to be in a downward spiral. I hope they recover for all of our sakes.A MESSAGE FROM JAMES
“Have you heard? Shopsmith is no longer servicing conventional headstocks and discontinued SPTs (Power Stations, Jigsaws, etc.) They are still doing factory repairs on power pro headstocks and in-production SPT’s. This will not have any effect on availability of repair parts whatsoever. Parts will still be made available and kept in inventory.
The Shopsmith Repair/Woodworking Academy, will service the new Power Pro headstocks and will continue to service the conventional headstocks and all accessories like the Belt Sander, Jointer and Planer. Although for some of the discontinued machines parts may not be available. Please call me first to see if we can still get parts for your machine, or if you have any questions.”
Thanks,
James
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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thunderbirdbat
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
The question is how much of this is a disclaimer for machines that already have very little if any parts support. Someone with no knowledge of Shopsmith's may think that all past machines are supported and we all know that is not the case. Machines that currently have little or no parts support that I can think of include the 10 E/ER, MK II, Jigsaw, grey scroll saw and Joint-Matic.rjent wrote:That last statement is very disturbing to me. This company seems to be in a downward spiral. I hope they recover for all of our sakes.A MESSAGE FROM JAMES
The Shopsmith Repair/Woodworking Academy, will service the new Power Pro headstocks and will continue to service the conventional headstocks and all accessories like the Belt Sander, Jointer and Planer. Although for some of the discontinued machines parts may not be available. Please call me first to see if we can still get parts for your machine, or if you have any questions.”
Thanks,
James
Brenda
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
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rjent
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
That is fair, but, to me, it just seems that the company is going in a different direction. Since they are not very forthcoming with information, and given the latest support issues (we have all witnessed) I just wonder what is in store.thunderbirdbat wrote:The question is how much of this is a disclaimer for machines that already have very little if any parts support. Someone with no knowledge of Shopsmith's may think that all past machines are supported and we all know that is not the case. Machines that currently have little or no parts support that I can think of include the 10 E/ER, MK II, Jigsaw, grey scroll saw and Joint-Matic.rjent wrote:That last statement is very disturbing to me. This company seems to be in a downward spiral. I hope they recover for all of our sakes.A MESSAGE FROM JAMES
The Shopsmith Repair/Woodworking Academy, will service the new Power Pro headstocks and will continue to service the conventional headstocks and all accessories like the Belt Sander, Jointer and Planer. Although for some of the discontinued machines parts may not be available. Please call me first to see if we can still get parts for your machine, or if you have any questions.”
Thanks,
James
Not trying to be negative, just realistic.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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thunderbirdbat
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
This is true but at the same time James' website is a third party repair service. How much info has he been told that we have not? With the turn over of personnel, did SS reach out to the people who did repairs for them in the past for help? I do find it interesting and encouraging that SS still sells the 520 and 510 models.
Brenda
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
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woodennickel
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
If the company is in trouble would not be a surprise. All one can do is hope that they get it figured out. Having just upgraded to the power pro this is especially worrisome. All one can do is wait and see.
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
Yes, James is a repair facility and has been there for quite some time.thunderbirdbat wrote:This is true but at the same time James' website is a third party repair service. How much info has he been told that we have not? With the turn over of personnel, did SS reach out to the people who did repairs for them in the past for help? I do find it interesting and encouraging that SS still sells the 520 and 510 models.
I think he is just astute. What better way to solicit "Shopsmith Repair" business. He has also set himself up as a possible source for parts.
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Re: Opening up the Power Pro head
I haven't been back for a while because I have had other things to do, but I did finally get around to breaking down the Shopsmith again and sort of breadboarding the electronics so that I could hook them up, power them up, and try to see what behaves how.
The result of that is a video I've posted at https://youtu.be/cjoE6mTAWpA.
I'm afraid my improvisatory narration is a bit confusing, but at least you can see what the voltage checker does and when it does it, power off and power on, over the various bits and pieces and harnesses. Fact is I just plain misspoke at one point. Oops! Sorry.
My next step is to box up the control panel, write a cover letter, and send it off to Shopsmith in Dayton. With any luck they will send it out to be checked, reset, fixed or replaced as needed and get it back to me.
The result of that is a video I've posted at https://youtu.be/cjoE6mTAWpA.
I'm afraid my improvisatory narration is a bit confusing, but at least you can see what the voltage checker does and when it does it, power off and power on, over the various bits and pieces and harnesses. Fact is I just plain misspoke at one point. Oops! Sorry.
My next step is to box up the control panel, write a cover letter, and send it off to Shopsmith in Dayton. With any luck they will send it out to be checked, reset, fixed or replaced as needed and get it back to me.