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DLB wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 1:59 pm The lock screw for the vertical modes is normally off-centered from the recess hole. Looks weird, but that's the design. Yours might be slightly off, it's kind of hard to tell from the picture, but it shouldn't be centered. I would not think it is likely to cause excessive wear on the hinge pin holes.

SEVEN machines!

- David

Thanks for that input .
Maybe it was just abuse.
The others I don't think have this much slop.
I will check the others and make a better assessment.

Yes 7
I will try to put them in my signature.
They are so cheap around here and now I got most all the attachments I want.

I plan to refurbish and paint at least 3 of them.

I think they will sell (Fingers crossed) in a Mile long yard sale we have locally twice a year.

They are easy to buy and hard to sell around here though.

To better understand the tilt lock/dimple alignment:

The locking screw has a cone shaped point.

The dimple has a sloping side wall.

With the intentional offset of the two, the lock screw cone enters the dimple slightly inside the extreme edge.

This places the lock screw point inside outer edge and deeper into the dimple than the side of the cone which bears against the sloping dimple surface.

Thus the screw can be quite loose and still provide a rotational stop to the upper assembly.

Some here have not loosened the screw sufficiently and caused a scratch when manually forcing it down(lotta leverage available!).

Oh and we ALL have made that assumption that they are misaligned prior to understanding why.

JPG wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:31 pm To better understand the tilt lock/dimple alignment:

The locking screw has a cone shaped point.

The dimple has a sloping side wall.

With the intentional offset of the two, the lock screw cone enters the dimple slightly inside the extreme edge.

This places the lock screw point inside outer edge and deeper into the dimple than the side of the cone which bears against the sloping dimple surface.

Thus the screw can be quite loose and still provide a rotational stop to the upper assembly.

Some here have not loosened the screw sufficiently and caused a scratch when manually forcing it down(lotta leverage available!).

Oh and we ALL have made that assumption that they are misaligned prior to understanding why.

After looking at the other SS's I have here,
After DLB (David's) comment
I started to see it a little.

What you're saying makes sense to me.

The wear in the housing close to it, Is what made me notice it and start looking for causes.

It's probably just abuse ?

So thanks for your insight.
I will just focus on getting the slop out of the housing now.

GetterDone,

JPG gave a great description of the lock and as he said

we ALL have made that assumption that they are misaligned prior to understanding why.

Now did we forget to warn you that buying Shopsmith Tools can be habit forming?

I know that to be true since I have done it and still enjoy restoring Shopsmith Tools. I have many waiting for their turn. I was going to list them, but it would be a long list. Below is moving day last year to the new (to me) shop at our new home. Can't even see all the Shopsmith stuff in the picture and more has been added since.

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Seriously though it is great to see a new to Shopsmith person so excited about the Shopsmith Tools.

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Looks like an airplane hanger!

shopsmith says use non-silicone topcoat by bostick to do maintenance on my shopsmith mark v 500. Can't find it anyplace for sale. is there a substitute?

chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:54 pm GetterDone,

JPG gave a great description of the lock and as he said

we ALL have made that assumption that they are misaligned prior to understanding why.

Now did we forget to warn you that buying Shopsmith Tools can be habit forming?

I know that to be true since I have done it and still enjoy restoring Shopsmith Tools. I have many waiting for their turn. I was going to list them, but it would be a long list. Below is moving day last year to the new (to me) shop at our new home. Can't even see all the Shopsmith stuff in the picture and more has been added since.

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Moving Day.jpg
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Seriously though it is great to see a new to Shopsmith person so excited about the Shopsmith Tools.

WOW.

I don't think a warning would have helped any.

mrp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:58 pm shopsmith says use non-silicone topcoat by bostick to do maintenance on my shopsmith mark v 500. Can't find it anyplace for sale. is there a substitute?

Hmmm... I don't think Bostick Top Coat was around when the Mark 5 was introduced. Have you searched for it? Amazon sells (among others) Bostick Glide Cote. It is the same product but a different name.

jsburger wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:07 pm

mrp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:58 pm shopsmith says use non-silicone topcoat by bostick to do maintenance on my shopsmith mark v 500. Can't find it anyplace for sale. is there a substitute?

Hmmm... I don't think Bostick Top Coat was around when the Mark 5 was introduced. Have you searched for it? Amazon sells (among others) Bostick Glide Cote. It is the same product but a different name.

Ya I am curious who at SS came up with that 'official' recommendation.

mrp,

Welcome to the Shopsmith Forum. You asked

shopsmith says use non-silicone topcoat by bostick to do maintenance on my shopsmith mark v 500. Can't find it anyplace for sale. is there a substitute?

Yes, Paste Wax, read on.

At one time Shopsmith included Bostik Top-Cote in their Help Kit instead of paste wax that had been used since the 1950's on Shopsmith Tools. After a short time, they went back to including paste wax in the Help Kit. As you can see from the list of contents in the picture below the Help Kit has a lot of helpful items to maintain your Shopsmith Tool.

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I have a can of the Bostik Top-Cote that I have never used. I prefer to use Johnson Paste Wax that had been included in the Help Kit in the past. JPW is no longer made. Minwax Paste Wax is currently included in the Help Kit. The PDF attached below is a waxing recommendation for the Shopsmith Model 10E & 10ER edited from the early (1950's) Mark 5 Owner's Guide. It includes information found in most Shopsmith Mark 5/V manuals and other sources.
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The use of Bostik Top-Cote would have been substituted in literature for paste wax during the time Shopsmith included it instead of paste wax.