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Re: Strip sander help - PROBLEM SOLVED
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:51 pm
by charlese
I had posted info re: my new idler wheels in another later thread, but here is a pic of my new bearing centered idler wheel.
- Wheel from SUNRAY, INC
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I bought two wheels, because two are still at the minimum cost for that Co. The price is high, but the wheels have performed admirably for a year or so with lots of use. I would have worn through several brass bushing wheels by now. The high price ($102.14) has almost paid for itself already. With these wheels, the strip sander is one of my most used tools.
Size specs for my wheels are: 1.875 diam X 1.875 wide. 1603 2RS bearing. These wheels are not in stock - they had to be manufactured to fit my specs. That's why they are expensive per wheel.
I had to buy longer shoulder screws for these wheels. (a few cents each)
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:59 pm
by jsburger
cincinnati wrote:I scored a Strip sander (1988 year model) off Craigslist. $50 for the sander AND older jig saw.
The strip sander is missing a few parts. The little wheel just below the upper spring loaded wheel is missing. Also the 3 platens are missing. Kinda surprised the curved one is $25 from SS. Anyone seen a sale lately from Shopsmith? They use to run a parts sale all the time.
Any tips on what to look for in doing my rebuild? The upper spring wheel is kinda stiff but does work.
Looks like the sander was run to the point the belt almost cut the cover in two by the dust port. The cord in the sandpaper was melted into the cover.
Makes you wonder what people does to their tools.
I noticed in the parts view on line it says for sanders prior to 1999. What changed after that date?
Any tips or experience with a rebuild is helpful.
There is no wheel that permanently sits below the upper spring loaded wheel. when you want to do inside sanding you remove the small wheel on the left side center and install it below the upper spring loaded wheel.
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:18 pm
by charlese
jsburger wrote:
There is no wheel that permanently sits below the upper spring loaded wheel. when you want to do inside sanding you remove the small wheel on the left side center and install it below the upper spring loaded wheel.
Sure there is!
If you have two wheels there is a "storage spot/mount" for the second one. Look at the photo from
cincinnati - found on page 3 - second post. See the little threaded hole? That hole holds an idler wheel!
Re: Strip sander help - PROBLEM SOLVED
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:48 pm
by ChrisNeilan
charlese wrote:I had posted info re: my new idler wheels in another later thread, but here is a pic of my new bearing centered idler wheel.
photo.JPG
I bought two wheels, because two are still at the minimum cost for that Co. The price is high, but the wheels have performed admirably for a year or so with lots of use. I would have worn through several brass bushing wheels by now. The high price ($102.14) has almost paid for itself already. With these wheels, the strip sander is one of my most used tools.
Size specs for my wheels are: 1.875 diam X 1.875 wide. 1603 2RS bearing. These wheels are not in stock - they had to be manufactured to fit my specs. That's why they are expensive per wheel.
I had to buy longer shoulder screws for these wheels. (a few cents each)
Are these wheels made of poly similar to what roller blade wheels would be? Also are they flat on top? What was the time frame from order to shipment? They look great!
Chris
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:34 pm
by jsburger
charlese wrote:jsburger wrote:
There is no wheel that permanently sits below the upper spring loaded wheel. when you want to do inside sanding you remove the small wheel on the left side center and install it below the upper spring loaded wheel.
Sure there is!
If you have two wheels there is a "storage spot/mount" for the second one. Look at the photo from
cincinnati - found on page 3 - second post. See the little threaded hole? That hole holds an idler wheel!
"Sure there is" what?
In Cincinnati's original post he said he was missing the small wheel just below the upper large wheel. The stock sander does not have a second small wheel permanently mounted in that position. So he is not missing it. You move the single small wheel to that location to do inside sanding.
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:39 pm
by ChrisNeilan
I think the point was that you can mount another wheel (not that you have to). That would eliminate the need to move a wheel when changing set ups... I really need to buy a strip sander.......... (Read that as "I really want a strip sander!")
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:46 pm
by jsburger
ChrisNeilan wrote:I think the point was that you can mount another wheel (not that you have to). That would eliminate the need to move a wheel when changing set ups... I really need to buy a strip sander.......... (Read that as "I really want a strip sander!")
I buy lots of things I don't need at the time but if there is a sale and I think I might need it in the future I go for it. It actually usually works out.
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:03 pm
by Mike907
My recently purchased strip sander's manual has an added Idler Wheel Maintenance page dated 08/14 that requires that the socket head cap screw and the idler wheel have a thin coating of wheel bearing grease applied every twenty hours of run time.
Mike
Re: Strip sander help - PROBLEM SOLVED
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:28 pm
by charlese
ChrisNeilan wrote:charlese wrote:I had posted info re: my new idler wheels in another later thread, but here is a pic of my new bearing centered idler wheel.
photo.JPG
I bought two wheels, because two are still at the minimum cost for that Co. The price is high, but the wheels have performed admirably for a year or so with lots of use. I would have worn through several brass bushing wheels by now. The high price ($102.14) has almost paid for itself already. With these wheels, the strip sander is one of my most used tools.
Size specs for my wheels are: 1.875 diam X 1.875 wide. 1603 2RS bearing. These wheels are not in stock - they had to be manufactured to fit my specs. That's why they are expensive per wheel.
I had to buy longer shoulder screws for these wheels. (a few cents each)
Are these wheels made of poly similar to what roller blade wheels would be? Also are they flat on top? What was the time frame from order to shipment? They look great!
Chris
Yes, very hard or firm poly. Yes they are flat on the outside edge. Since they had to design and make the wheels from my specs, it took about a month - maybe a little longer before shipping. I ordered on line and then an engineer called me to confirm everything. I called for bearings to be the same diameter as the shoulder screws already on the sander. At the time, didn't know the outside diameter of the bearings, but it worked out just right. These idler wheels will outlast me!
I think the new shoulder screws are 1 3/4". They just fit into the closed case cover.
used existing washers on the inside and the screw head on the outside.
Re: Strip sander help
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:33 am
by JPG
The original metal(with ball bearing) idlers had a flat face and were quite hard! I am not sure that worked well with the idler in the upper/inside sanding position.