A Slow Boat To Nowhere
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Is that part actually called a thwart in the plans Al? I'm not so familiar with canoes but I would have called that a yoke or carrying yoke. Thwart is the name usually used for seats in small boats.
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
The plans for my canoe call it a yoke.
But on the canoe forums I see the term thwart used generically for any cross-member (although never as a seat).
But you're the shipbuilder, Paul, so I'll go with what you say!
But on the canoe forums I see the term thwart used generically for any cross-member (although never as a seat).
But you're the shipbuilder, Paul, so I'll go with what you say!
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Oh shucks! Although it looks like a yoke, (thinking of oxen)I was happy to learn the name thwart.
Whatever it's called, it is beautiful.
Whatever it's called, it is beautiful.

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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
So, the bow seat is temporarily bolted in. My prior mistake with the initial fitting of the yoke made me pay a lot of attention to the tumblehome when installing the seat and I got a good, tight fit.
The seat has exactly 10 inches of clearance under it and the top of the seat is 11 inches to the bottom of the canoe. Any lower and I fear the bow paddler won't be able to get their feet under the seat for kneeling in rougher water and the sitting position will be very uncomfortable. But it seems relatively high to the gunwale compared to some of the pictures I have seen.
Any experienced paddlers have views on seat height?
I still need to make the spacers that fit between the seat and the gunwale. And I need to do a better job seating the bolt heads, a job which is made a little complicated by the angle of the gunwale.The seat has exactly 10 inches of clearance under it and the top of the seat is 11 inches to the bottom of the canoe. Any lower and I fear the bow paddler won't be able to get their feet under the seat for kneeling in rougher water and the sitting position will be very uncomfortable. But it seems relatively high to the gunwale compared to some of the pictures I have seen.
Any experienced paddlers have views on seat height?
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Counterbore the heads slightly?algale wrote:So, the bow seat is temporarily bolted in. My prior mistake with the initial fitting of the yoke made me pay a lot of attention to the tumblehome when installing the seat and I got a good, tight fit.I still need to make the spacers that fit between the seat and the gunwale. And I need to do a better job seating the bolt heads, a job which is made a little complicated by the angle of the gunwale.
The seat has exactly 10 inches of clearance under it and the top of the seat is 11 inches to the bottom of the canoe. Any lower and I fear the bow paddler won't be able to get their feet under the seat for kneeling in rougher water and the sitting position will be very uncomfortable. But it seems relatively high to the gunwale compared to some of the pictures I have seen.
Any experienced paddlers have views on seat height?
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Exactly what I have done. I think I just need to deepen the counterbores sligthly.JPG wrote:Counterbore the heads slightly?
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Has someone shot a hole through the stern of my canoe?
The hole (along with an identical one in the bow) is preparation for the insertion of a copper tube that will be epoxied in and allow me to insert bow and stern lines for various purposes, including car topping, tying up to a dock or the shore, towing the canoe behind another boat or lining it through rough water. Drilling that hole through an otherwise perfectly good hull was absolutely traumatic. Hated doing it.
Here's the copper tube, pre-epoxy. It will get cut down flush to the hull.
The hole (along with an identical one in the bow) is preparation for the insertion of a copper tube that will be epoxied in and allow me to insert bow and stern lines for various purposes, including car topping, tying up to a dock or the shore, towing the canoe behind another boat or lining it through rough water. Drilling that hole through an otherwise perfectly good hull was absolutely traumatic. Hated doing it.
Here's the copper tube, pre-epoxy. It will get cut down flush to the hull.
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
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Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
algale wrote:Has someone shot a hole through the stern of my canoe?
The hole (along with an identical one in the bow) is preparation for the insertion of a copper tube that will be epoxied in and allow me to insert bow and stern lines for various purposes, including car topping, tying up to a dock or the shore, towing the canoe behind another boat or lining it through rough water. Drilling that hole through an otherwise perfectly good hull was absolutely traumatic. Hated doing it.
Here's the copper tube, pre-epoxy. It will get cut down flush to the hull.
I am not sure I could have LOL. There is no other way? Wow is all I can say. I trust you, but just Wow ....

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1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
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500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
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And a plethora of small stuff .....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
Some folks put a piece of hardware like a ring on the deck or the very top of the stem but it just isn't nearly as secure an attachment method and if lining or towing the boat a high attachment makes it much more prone to capsizing according to folks with a lot more canoeing experience than I.rjent wrote:
I am not sure I could have LOL. There is no other way? Wow is all I can say. I trust you, but just Wow ....
Believe me I dreaded doing it and my hands were shaking as I drilled it.
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
Re: A Slow Boat To Nowhere
I am sure it is in solid wood but why??
I can't imagine why you want to do that. It is not necessary in any case that I can think of and to me it detracts from the beautiful canoe you have built. Please explain.


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Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT