I always pull the tubes if an extension table is mounted. A floating table yes they can be lifted together but as soon as the extension table are involved it is a different story.
Ed
{Knight of the Shopsmith} [Hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags]
They are solid steel precisely ground to a .001" tolerance.
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The picture shows how they compare to the standard 5' connector tubes. I had them cut to 65 inches and the cost was $136 for both. They do weigh about 15 lbs each but make a world of difference in not only alignment but the increased stability of the tables.
I priced my cost on 2" TGP today for the possibility of replacing my bench tubes with solid for more rigidity (1 7/8" tubes, I'll turn the ends down). Metalsdepot wants twice what I pay, my markup isn't 100%. I'll check on my cost of 1" tomorrow... Freight might get pricey depending on location, but if you're near Phoenix,AZ or planning a trip through, you could save on shipping.
PM me or call The Werks C&C (Phx,Az) for a quote. Specify 1045TGP because we also keep other TurnedGroundPolished on hand that will be more expensive.
Marc
Phoenix, Az.
Mark V "Greenie" SN 264779 with Magna Eng jointer SN 14512
Years ago while I was still working we were setting up wire racking for computer equipment. The support posts were chrome plated with grooves marked every inch for the shelf brackets. These were six foot long and an inch in diameter. We doubled up several sections and had a couple posts left over. The supervisor was going to "store" them in the supply room. We annually cleaned out the supply room and tossed stuff like that out after a while. I asked if I could snag a couple to "test" their fit to my 510, no problem he said. That was 14 years ago and they are still part of my accessories. I found several online vendors, searched for round wire shelf post and got several outlets.Most prices were less than 10 bucks a post plus shipping. My local restaurant store has them in various colors and chrome.
They are solid steel precisely ground to a .001" tolerance.
IMG_0711.JPG
The picture shows how they compare to the standard 5' connector tubes. I had them cut to 65 inches and the cost was $136 for both. They do weigh about 15 lbs each but make a world of difference in not only alignment but the increased stability of the tables.
I priced my cost on 2" TGP today for the possibility of replacing my bench tubes with solid for more rigidity (1 7/8" tubes, I'll turn the ends down). Metalsdepot wants twice what I pay, my markup isn't 100%. I'll check on my cost of 1" tomorrow... Freight might get pricey depending on location, but if you're near Phoenix,AZ or planning a trip through, you could save on shipping.
PM me or call The Werks C&C (Phx,Az) for a quote. Specify 1045TGP because we also keep other TurnedGroundPolished on hand that will be more expensive.
Marc,
I have already upgraded my bench tubes to the 1 3/4" ground steel rods offered by MetalsDepot. When I upgraded to a Double Tilt configuration this past summer I had to replace the 1 7/8" tube that I had so went with the solid steel tubes. Love the difference it makes in the overall stability they add.
They are solid steel precisely ground to a .001" tolerance.
IMG_0711.JPG
The picture shows how they compare to the standard 5' connector tubes. I had them cut to 65 inches and the cost was $136 for both. They do weigh about 15 lbs each but make a world of difference in not only alignment but the increased stability of the tables.
I priced my cost on 2" TGP today for the possibility of replacing my bench tubes with solid for more rigidity (1 7/8" tubes, I'll turn the ends down). Metalsdepot wants twice what I pay, my markup isn't 100%. I'll check on my cost of 1" tomorrow... Freight might get pricey depending on location, but if you're near Phoenix,AZ or planning a trip through, you could save on shipping.
PM me or call The Werks C&C (Phx,Az) for a quote. Specify 1045TGP because we also keep other TurnedGroundPolished on hand that will be more expensive.
Marc,
I have already upgraded my bench tubes to the 1 3/4" ground steel rods offered by MetalsDepot. When I upgraded to a Double Tilt configuration this past summer I had to replace the 1 7/8" tube that I had so went with the solid steel tubes. Love the difference it makes in the overall stability they add.
Steve
Did you bother to shim them(inward 1/16" each) to maintain same c-c distance. I likely would not have unless I already had something that depended upon the original spacing. But then(after thought) that stuff would likely not fit the smaller od either.
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sehast wrote:No shims required for Double Tilt as far as I know. The solid steel tubes are the same length and diameter as the standard Shopsmith bench tubes.
True, but the base castings position them further apart. They reference the outside circumference on the tubes. The clamps push the tubes against the 'stop' in the base casting. Later versions(that used 1 3/4 bench tubes) have a 'taller' stop that positions the tubes 1/16" closer.
I envision the double tilt clamp and the base clamp fighting each other to space the tubes. Unless the double tilt clamp has oblong holes that accommodate both spacings, I see a potential problem.
Your situation was not likely perceived when the double tilt was designed(1 3/4" bench tubes in a greenie base). Yes there were some 1 7/8" goldies, but they were a Gilmer model(usually).
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
There is nothing left of my original Greenie. Throughout the past 30 years I have replaced the headstock, upgraded to 520 tables, made a PowerPro upgrade, replaced both the bench and way tubes and finally the Double Tilt ends. The only things remaining from the Greenie are the legs. As far as I can tell it is now equivalent to a Mark 7.
sehast wrote:There is nothing left of my original Greenie. Throughout the past 30 years I have replaced the headstock, upgraded to 520 tables, made a PowerPro upgrade, replaced both the bench and way tubes and finally the Double Tilt ends. The only things remaining from the Greenie are the legs. As far as I can tell it is now equivalent to a Mark 7.
Paint em gray and no one can tell!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange