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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:54 am
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:Wonder why the instructions are being updated.:rolleyes:
Now that is easy to answer. So that I can follow them.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:10 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:Now that is easy to answer. So that I can follow them.

So that's why they waited soooo long to update them!:D

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:08 pm
by JPG
I am adding a link to Dusty's more recent caster mounting thread. He has provided a better method for locating the new holes as well as further info on what dimensions he encountered.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=118686#post118686

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:19 am
by emagnet
Just to add to the collective knowledge base, I ordered the premium casters for my newly acquired 82 Mark V on 6/3. The casters were listed as being on back order when the order was processed on 6/6 but the delay was only a few days. They showed up yesterday. I used their templates and while I have not, as yet, measured the clearance, I am happy with the results. The pedals, as mentioned by other installers, did interfere with the casters. I moved them inward 3/4" today and now everything is fine. Still no mention in the instructions of the possibility of this occurring. This issue affects the amount of time and the equipment needed to install the casters and, given the growing number of people that have had this problem, I believe that Shopsmith should at least make mention of this issue somewhere.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:10 am
by dusty
emagnet wrote:Just to add to the collective knowledge base, I ordered the premium casters for my newly acquired 82 Mark V on 6/3. The casters were listed as being on back order when the order was processed on 6/6 but the delay was only a few days. They showed up yesterday. I used their templates and while I have not, as yet, measured the clearance, I am happy with the results. The pedals, as mentioned by other installers, did interfere with the casters. I moved them inward 3/4" today and now everything is fine. Still no mention in the instructions of the possibility of this occurring. This issue affects the amount of time and the equipment needed to install the casters and, given the growing number of people that have had this problem, I believe that Shopsmith should at least make mention of this issue somewhere.
I don't know if I agree or not. Who manufactured the caster sets that have the pedal located too close to the caster to facilitate the new caster.

If those caster sets were manufactured by Magna or Yuba does Shopsmith have any responsibility to keep documentation accurate?

I agree that it would be very accommodating if Shopsmith printed a notice about this in their paper work but can we fault them for not doing so?

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:50 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:I don't know if I agree or not. Who manufactured the caster sets that have the pedal located too close to the caster to facilitate the new caster.

If those caster sets were manufactured by Magna or Yuba does Shopsmith have any responsibility to keep documentation accurate?

I agree that it would be very accommodating if Shopsmith printed a notice about this in their paper work but can we fault them for not doing so?

Yes and Yes [IMHO].

Ignoring the historical differences is just plain head in the sand and a disservice to those who continue to 'be loyal' to the 'brand'.




I am guessing SS considered the disassembly and drilling to be 'beyond a typical customer's abilities. If so, they should have said the update was not 'compatible' with older models. Considering the initial leg hole drilling 'instructions', can you imagine how snarfed up lnstructions for drilling new holes in the shaft and moving the crank would have been.:rolleyes:


Considering all else that has been screwed up regarding this 'upgrade', I am not surprised. Resembles the result of having a 'new hire' do the work for releasing a simple change.








Or maybe an older employee in his dotage!:D

But then a short time ago they had a 'dispersal' sale that included 'historical' items.

Ahem!!!! I know of a resource where ss could interrogate some 'volunteer' aficionados re 'older model' differences.:cool:


Hint Hint:D

Lift Arm Interference

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:42 pm
by MikeG
I agree they should list it in the instructions. My 1980 unit had interference. I solved the problem by shortening the problem arm by 3/8" to 1/2" on each set. This was the recommended solution from customer service when I called them.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:51 pm
by JPG
MikeG wrote:I agree they should list it in the instructions. My 1980 unit had interference. I solved the problem by shortenikng the problem arm by 3/8" to 1/2" on each set. This was the recommended solution from customer service when I called them.
Incredible!

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:59 pm
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:Yes and Yes [IMHO].

Ignoring the historical differences is just plain head in the sand and a disservice to those who continue to 'be loyal' to the 'brand'.




I am guessing SS considered the disassembly and drilling to be 'beyond a typical customer's abilities. If so, they should have said the update was not 'compatible' with older models. Considering the initial leg hole drilling 'instructions', can you imagine how snarfed up lnstructions for drilling new holes in the shaft and moving the crank would have been.:rolleyes:


Considering all else that has been screwed up regarding this 'upgrade', I am not surprised. Resembles the result of having a 'new hire' do the work for releasing a simple change.








Or maybe an older employee in his dotage!:D

But then a short time ago they had a 'dispersal' sale that included 'historical' items.

Ahem!!!! I know of a resource where ss could interrogate some 'volunteer' aficionados re 'older model' differences.:cool:


Hint Hint:D
I'm sorry. Except that you believe Shopsmith has a responsibility to all of us "loyal die hards" - I did not understand a word you said.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:05 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:I'm sorry. Except that you believe Shopsmith has a responsibility to all of us "loyal die hards" - I did not understand a word you said.
Whatever.;)