Calling for Submissions - Everett

[dusty]

A Vertical panel saw

First time seeing that, never entered my mind.

Also outside the box.

I can also see a jig that could be attached to it to make sure the piece being cut remains parallel to the blade

Nice adaptation.

I have seen that before but the idea of feeding a sheet of plywood past that exposed saw blades just scares the day-lights out of me. Now, having said that, if the set up included the right sort of jigs and fittings it would be very helpful. The unsecured cut off would be a real problem (just as it is when using the Mark V with the table tilted. That piece above the saw blade MUST BE CONTROLLED!

Apparently DeWalt thought that was a good idea as well and documented it in their book for the Radial Arm Saw as seen here. https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/discu ... ras-terror

DeWalt or no, this is not my idea of a safe operation. Panel saws, maybe but not this kluge.

[chapmanruss]

Hi Everett,
As I am writing this the Mark 5 version 4 manual is loading to send to you. As before a total of three emails are being sent. Pages 1 to 16, Pages 17 to 32 and the 600 dpi pages. I just downloaded the 3 revision and noticed you have the Drive Sleeve Assembly as non clutched. I believe it is the clutched version in the manual as the part number changed to an assembly instead of the individual part numbers it had before. It is part number 202100 and continues to be so for the next several manuals. I know with your attension to detail you would not want this to "slip" by. Everett, thanks for all of your hard work.

[chapmanruss]

Hi Everett,
One of the documents you put out is the Shopsmith Sale History used when Folkerth was trying to form Shopsmith Inc. Do you know what the fiscal year was for this document? I have been playing with the numbers to figure out when missing serial numbers were made such as the pre April 1954 machines and what was the first Mark 5 S/N. Also the years for the S/N's after 1961 to the end of production by Magna American in late 1964. Using July 1 to June 30 as the fiscal year the numbers do not line up from what we know to presumed numbers based on July to June. The old monthly chart has S/N 263051 as the first unit made in April of 1954 and using the July/June fiscal year it would make S/N 261059 the first Mark 5 but there is a S/N 260407 out there. If S/N 261059 was the first that would make March and pre-release production just less than 2000 machines made which is less than each months production for 1954 except for December. That brings me back to the question have you found anything to indicate what was their fiscal year? I am hoping to fill in some blanks.

[chapmanruss]

Backing up a bit

beeg wrote:Wood this be of any value Everett?
https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/Popula ... SpBDNQ7iGB

Everett answered
That is a very appropriate piece of history indeed.
Thanks!

I tried to go to this link but couldn't bring it up. With the comment from algale about mashed potatoes I was wondering if it was something copied from the old Shop Notes specifically No. 3 page 4 ? see attached PDF below

Shop Notes 3 page 4.PDF

Page 4 of Shop Notes No. 3

(431.76 KiB) Downloaded 1120 times

The old Shop Notes which changed to Shopsmith Shavings had ideas on how to use the Shopsmith not covered in the manual like mashing potatoes from Oliver Willard of Eugene Oregon. Those Oregon guys are pretty clever folks.

[JPG]

Those were the days when one was responsible for their own actions.

Somewhere 'we' acquired the idea that someone else is.

'We' also acquired the idea that 'we' need to be protected from our own ignorance/stupidity and require all sorts of guards etc..

Now in spite of our responsibility and good judgement, many got careless and got hurt.

Sad occasions, but not to be unexpected.

There are times when 'unexpected' events occur and injury occurs.

However considering the 'possibility' of those events should always prevent the them being 'unexpected'.

Oh we have been exposed to the possibility of kick back and that should not be any excuse(see first statement above!)

IMO there are no 'accidents' which are not predictable. It is when we consider them unlikely that it bites us.

Now personally I do not fear using power tool sans guards and using what I was born with to push/control things near rotating cutting teeth. I consider fingers to provide far greater control due to tactile feedback than a dumb stick(of any shape). I have never experienced kick back(yet) but have been close to creating conditions for it to occur(due to my not having adequate control). How many kickbacks occur when using a stick, or not adequately control the work piece? I think most if not all of them.

Sorry, off topic Everett, but that is the view from a old fart with all his appendages(so far) that has a cocked opinion of many 'safety' philosophies.

I consider no one/thing else is responsible for my safety.

end rant:

[chapmanruss]

JPG,
I did like your "rant"
I had a whole career helping those who couldn't avoid the avoidable. Yes, accidents are avoidable. Only Mother Nature causes the un-avoidable and even some of that risk can be reduced. One of the worst power tool "accidents" I responded to was a man using a chain saw which kicked back into his neck. It did a lot of damage but he did survive. Did he have a case against the chain saw manufacturer? No, he was using it incorrectly otherwise it would not have kicked back. ALWAYS be aware of your body parts and how close they are to moving tool parts. Guards are there to remind us to be careful, but they can't keep us totally safe, that's up to the user.
29 years as a Firefighter/EMT

[everettdavis]

Hi Everett,
One of the documents you put out is the Shopsmith Sale History used when Folkerth was trying to form Shopsmith Inc. Do you know what the fiscal year was for this document? I have been playing with the numbers to figure out when missing serial numbers were made such as the pre April 1954 machines and what was the first Mark 5 S/N. Also the years for the S/N's after 1961 to the end of production by Magna American in late 1964. Using July 1 to June 30 as the fiscal year the numbers do not line up from what we know to presumed numbers based on July to June. The old monthly chart has S/N 263051 as the first unit made in April of 1954 and using the July/June fiscal year it would make S/N 261059 the first Mark 5 but there is a S/N 260407 out there. If S/N 261059 was the first that would make March and pre-release production just less than 2000 machines made which is less than each months production for 1954 except for December. That brings me back to the question have you found anything to indicate what was their fiscal year? I am hoping to fill in some blanks.

I don't have an absolute date, just the text at this point.

I don't know much about their fiscal year. If you can find an articles of incorporation for them, it should define that I would think.

Everett

[chapmanruss]

Today I found there is another edition of the early Mark 5 manuals. It is Cat. No. EM 9100-A-M5-8-55 making it the 4th edition and the last one I sent you would than be the 5th edition. It is also the last Magna Engineering edition. Unfortunately it is only a copy for sale on eBay. Looking at the list of ones I now know of this one is a bit of a surprise. Its number is two months before the last one I sent you.

Here is the current list of the editions I know of.

Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 1st Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-M5-3:54* Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 2nd Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-M5-7-54 Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 3rd Edition Cat. No. EM-1900-M5-4/55* Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 4th Edition Cat. No. EM 9100-A-M5-8-55 Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1955 5th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-10:55* Magna PTC
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1955 6th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-A--10:56* Magna PTC
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 7th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-B 4:57* Magna PTC

Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 ? Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-C 3/59* Yuba
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 ? Edition Bulletin No. 504286 1/73* Shopsmith Inc.
Mark 5 Manual no Copyright date ? Edition Bulletin No. 504286 6/76* Shopsmith Inc.

* I have original copies of these Manuals

Editions 6 and 7 may be more likely 7 and 8 but I could be wrong as editions seem to follow changes on the machine more than anything else.

[rpd]

Today I found there is another edition of the early Mark 5 manuals. It is Cat. No. EM 9100-A-M5-8-55 making it the 4th edition and the last one I sent you would than be the 5th edition. It is also the last Magna Engineering edition. Unfortunately it is only a copy for sale on eBay. Looking at the list of ones I now know of this one is a bit of a surprise. Its number is two months before the last one I sent you.

Here is the current list of the editions I know of.

Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 1st Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-M5-3:54* Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 2nd Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-M5-7-54 Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 3rd Edition Cat. No. EM-1900-M5-4/55* Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1954 4th Edition Cat. No. EM 9100-A-M5-8-55 Magna Eng.
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1955 5th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-10:55* Magna PTC
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1955 6th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-A--10:56* Magna PTC
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 7th Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-B 4:57* Magna PTC

Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 ? Edition Cat. No. EM-9100-C 3/59* Yuba
Mark 5 Manual Copyright 1957 ? Edition Bulletin No. 504286 1/73* Shopsmith Inc.
Mark 5 Manual no Copyright date ? Edition Bulletin No. 504286 6/76* Shopsmith Inc.

* I have original copies of these Manuals

Editions 6 and 7 may be more likely 7 and 8 but I could be wrong as editions seem to follow changes on the machine more than anything else.

Hi Russ,
I have a copy of Cat. No. EM9100-A-MS-8-55 in very nice condition. I will do a scan when I get a chance.

[chapmanruss]

Thanks Ron,
Everett likes the entire manual to be scanned in at 300 DPI and drawings also in high 1200 DPI resolutions. I have been doing my scans at 300 DPI and 600 DPI which is my scanners high resolution limit. He has asked for PNG format but my scanners is limited to JPG and PDF so he is okay with JPG files. The restorations he has done with my manuals and Wiley's (2nd edition) have come out look great. Everett does excellent work. They need to be sent to his email at ShopsmithHistorian.com since the files are too large to share here. This email address is only for sending in scans for restorations and not regular communications.

Anyone who has an original pre Shopsmith Inc. manual not listed above is encouraged to send a scanned copy to Everett and make note of it here. The catalog numbers are on the back cover in the lower right corner.

What I have been noticing about the manuals is that newer editions of the manuals were mostly a result of changes to parts on the machine. Most of the setup and operation information, including the pictures, remained the same through the first Shopsmith Inc. manual. With the Magna Power Tool Corporation Manual Copyright 1957 Cat. No. EM 9100-B 4:57 the Parts Lists and Drawings were no longer included in the manual but came separate. The manuals no longer required new editions because of part changes. Changes I noted between the 1st and 2nd editions were the Drive Sleeve changed to the "Clutch" version, the Eccentric Bushing added the set screw and the retainer was added. Later editions show the change from the "A" headstock to the "B" headstock.

We will want to gather the separate parts lists to cover the changes as they occurred also. I have a 9/58 and a 3/59 Yuba parts list along with an early Shopsmith Inc. all copyright 1958. Additionally I have a SS Inc. Parts List dated 3/73 (no copyright.) There should be more Parts Lists versions to cover the company name changes along with the Gilmer Drive to Poly V Drive and the addition of the extra table slot plus more.