Outfeed table

[Greenvilleguy]

Dusty,

Thanks for all your hard work and for sharing this with us. It's a really neat setup.

One more question. What did you use to connect the support to the outfeed table itself?

[Ed in Tampa]

[quote="dusty"]No, Ed, you cannot order the part from SS. It is not standard. Reads Nick's contribution to this thread and you'll understand.

I used a piece of 1" steel pipe]

Dusty
I think you misunderstood. I wanted to know about the two parts that connect the adjustable leg to the table and to the turned pipe.
If I understand you, you used part # 514520 to connect the adjustable leg to the turned pipe. Is that correct?
What is the part number of the bracket the mounts on the actual table and connects it to the adjustable leg?
Also if I understood you, you drilled the SS main table support vertical leg and use a set screw to hold the turned pipe into it. Is that correct?

I was thinking of turning a piece of wood that would fit up inside the vertical table tube and then drill a hole off center about 2/3's the length wise. Then in would cut the plug in half and hold the two halves together with a screw long enough to pass through the first half and to get a good bite in the second half. When I then inserted the plug into the pipes and turned the screw, this would cause the upper half to cam against the inside of the pipe and wedge the whole thing in there.

Just a thought.

Another way is to cut the plug at an angle and then using a washer bigger than the pipe and screw I could insert the plug then turn the screw which would cause the two pieces to cam at the angle and tighten against the pipe.
Ed

[dusty]

Ed in Tampa,

To connect the adjustable support leg to the underside of the outfeed table, I used a part from Hollaender Speed-Rail. These are the same folks who manufacture the T-fitting on the SS adjustable support legs.

I used Hollaender's part number 41E (3/4") to attach to the table and part number 17E (3/4") to attach to the turned pipe in the vertical support column.

DISCLAIMER: What I have just described in this thread is how I completed what I consider my prototype adjustable outfeed table. It works but I am not completely satisfied because when I tilt the table there is some binding that I did not expect. The adjustable support leg wants to change length.

With no tilt - it works great and I use it that way everyday.

If I must tilt the table, I loosen the support leg, tilt the table and readjust the support leg to place the two tables in the same plane. Not much improvement over what we started with.

I found this out by marking the adjustable legs degree of extension at -45 degrees, 0 degrees, and 90 degrees of table tilt. To keep the main table and the adjustable table on the same plane, the leg had to be adjusted.

I have a universal coupling coming that I think will solve the binding problem. Will post results be they good or bad.

Yes, I drilled the SS vertical support column and the turned pipe to accomodate a set screw.

Yes, the turned pipe could be done very satisfactorily with a piece to turned hard wood. And the expansion scew would eliminate the need for the set screw. Very good approach.

[charlese]

Dusty one - Just wanted to say WELL DONE!!

[cincinnati10]

Nick,

I didn't have time to read all the posts in this thread, so perhaps other have expressed a similar concern.

Adding table surface area to overhang the base of the machine moves the center of gravity towards the extension table. When cutting large pieces, the weight of the lumber or the force exerted by the operator could create a large moment and potentially make the machine unstable. As a word of caution, please test your design by placing weight on the outfeed table and determind how much force applied to that table would be required to tip the machine. It would be more unstable if someone were using the MK V with the castors enganged.

I hate to add complexity to the design. But perhaps "outrigger" feet attached to the casters or legs could be a solution. Anything that takes two steps for safety leaves you open to the liability of someone not taking step two (Putting outriggger legs in place). Perhaps this will spark an idea from another user who can suggest a better way.

I do like your concept. This is much more user friendly than having to move telescoping legs with each table adjustment.

[charlese]

Hi, cincinnati10 - Welcome to the forum!

Yes, that issue has been addressed, pretty well. In summary; If you put your collection of cannon balls on the outfeed table - it will tip.

Your concern is well taken, however. This is a valid concern, shared by others - regardless of the frivolity above. Some reasonable care should be addressed.

[dusty]

My shop schedule is real packed right now but when I get some time (probably next week) I'll load some weight on the outfeed table to test your concern.

I'll not load until it tips but I will load it with what I expect will be expected loads (weight) and see if it indicates a tendency toward instability.

We need a mechanical engineer to tells us but I believe that having the telescoping leg attached back under the center of the machine helps alleviate your concern for tipping.