Re: New Shopsmith DC-6000 Dust Collector
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:14 am
More pictures including the inside of the DC3000 and of the DC6000 manual:
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Both the DC-3300 and DC-6000 parts lists show a "Motor and Blower Assembly" (Items 8 - 20). Every part of it appears to be different between the two. At that assembly level the new version looks like it could be a near drop in replacement. The new one is not listed yet, the DC-3300 version lists for $463.68. It looks to me like it would be easy to offer as an upgrade, but the upgrade would likely be pricey.RFGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:30 am It does look like Shopsmith kept most of the tooling the same between the DC-3300 and the DC-6000 which is good, I think. However, it does look like the motor housing is much wider on the DC-6000 so likely a bigger motor I suspect. Also, the impeller is a different part number now, so perhaps it is larger or a new design as well. I do wonder if Shopsmith will offer, at some point, an upgrade kit to bring this newer motor/impeller to the DC-3300, but probably not since they would rather sell the entire new model ($$$) to customers. Since the motor housing appears wider it would probably not be a straightforward adaptation anyway.
Been awhile since I opened up my DC-3300, but doesn't it have kind of a "U" shaped area in the back of the outer ring that the motor assembly sets down in? Since the DC-6000 looks to have a wider motor housing, I think you would have to do some kind of modifications to that outer ring before it would just slide in. Sorry, my DC-3300 is up in my attic and not easily accessible for me to confirm this.DLB wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:34 am At that assembly level the new version looks like it could be a near drop in replacement. The new one is not listed yet, the DC-3300 version lists for $463.68. It looks to me like it would be easy to offer as an upgrade, but the upgrade would likely be pricey.
- David
Yes, there is kind of a squared off "U" that appears to be part of the main housing. The Main Housing PN is the same on both lists, 515689. The motor housing was already fairly large, maybe they did not have to widen it for the new motor.(?) That seems unclear. The Motor Seal, 19A in the new list Jack attached and 20 in mine, is also unchanged (515550) and I believe it matches the dimensions of the "U."RFGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:59 am Been awhile since I opened up my DC-3300, but doesn't it have kind of a "U" shaped area in the back of the outer ring that the motor assembly sets down in? Since the DC-6000 looks to have a wider motor housing, I think you would have to do some kind of modifications to that outer ring before it would just slide in. Sorry, my DC-3300 is up in my attic and not easily accessible for me to confirm this.
I also have no way to make objective measurements for comparison. And I probably should have stated that the manual I'm referring to for parts list is 330002 dated 6/89. I've been pretty happy with mine. Then I bought a Planer that wants to work with the 4" 'standard' hose. It's my understanding that the DC-3300 used to have a 4" adapter available and that SS dropped it because the system didn't generate adequate air velocity for a 4" hose to keep the material suspended. I'm reasonably confident I can modify the plenum for a 4" hose. So if the DC-6000 has an honest and significant increase in CFM I'm interested. And I think a fully inflated 42" hood with two inlets open would indicate a significant increase that's easy, though subjective, to measure.dusty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:43 pm This could be a slippery slope on which to do comparisons.
I just became aware that there is at least two versions of the dust collector newer than mine and I don't know what all of the changes were.
I've got no way to do a valid comparison. I just know that mine DC3000 has served me well for about fifteen years now.
David,DLB wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:06 pm ]I also have no way to make objective measurements for comparison. And I probably should have stated that the manual I'm referring to for parts list is 330002 dated 6/89. I've been pretty happy with mine. Then I bought a Planer that wants to work with the 4" 'standard' hose. It's my understanding that the DC-3300 used to have a 4" adapter available and that SS dropped it because the system didn't generate adequate air velocity for a 4" hose to keep the material suspended. I'm reasonably confident I can modify the plenum for a 4" hose. So if the DC-6000 has an honest and significant increase in CFM I'm interested. And I think a fully inflated 42" hood with two inlets open would indicate a significant increase that's easy, though subjective, to measure.
- David