Dusty's Mark 7

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:15 am

now has one less road block.

I have suddenly and unexpectedly been confronted with a decision. What dumbfounds me is how this came about. I was ranting about the Sawstop and the chance of that technology being mandated into our wood shops.

My wife, out of the blue, says "Why don't you just sell yours and buy a new one. Both of them, I mean. Sell both of the old Shopsmith's and get a new one with all the updated bells and whistles".

Now maybe she thinks that a new SS has all of the features of a new SS and when she found out that my new Shopsmith does not have SawStop technology I'd be in serious trouble. But, it is tempting.

Well, you can all guess the discussions that I am having with myself right now. I don't know that I can give up my original Mark V. It has been with me almost half of my adult life (well, about a third).

No matter what I decide right now, I now know that there are some kinks in her armor. She has stood fast throughout the last three or four years against my spending on new, unneeded shop equipment.

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:01 am

Hmmm. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. At least, that's what I've been told.

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:47 am

You are in a pickle. Maybe get the new one on order and sell the less sentimental one out of good faith and then ask way too much for the one you want to keep. Mount SPT's on them both and mention how conveinient it is to have 2 (since you couldn't get anyone to make you an offer).

Speaking of pickles, I am in one. Spoke up for a friend of a friends ER yesterday and I havn't gone through the proper "channels" yet. Not quite sure how to explain that. Seeking advice, pic below. Ladys husband passed and he bought it NEW she thinks in 1950, it's a one owner. Has everthing it came with-stand-casters-speed changer-shaper fence-ect ect. I was thinking of using it as a dedicated lathe and maybe sanding disk. I'm in big trouble.

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gregf · Post by **gregf** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 am

I sure understand not wanting to get rid of an old friend.
I've had mine since 80something, upgraded through the 510, to 520.
Bought an additional heasdstock to maybe do the PowerPro ugrade someday, not wanting to change the original headstock.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:07 am

mrhart wrote:You are in a pickle. Maybe get the new one on order and sell the less sentimental one out of good faith and then ask way too much for the one you want to keep. Mount SPT's on them both and mention how conveinient it is to have 2 (since you couldn't get anyone to make you an offer).

Speaking of pickles, I am in one. Spoke up for a friend of a friends ER yesterday and I havn't gone through the proper "channels" yet. Not quite sure how to explain that. Seeking advice, pic below. Ladys husband passed and he bought it NEW she thinks in 1950, it's a one owner. Has everthing it came with-stand-casters-speed changer-shaper fence-ect ect. I was thinking of using it as a dedicated lathe and maybe sanding disk. I'm in big trouble.

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That is a nice looking 10ER. Very clean.

ryanbp01 · Post by **ryanbp01** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:07 am

I don't think I'd get rid of them both, either. But why not just send one headstock in and have the company do the upgrade while you get a loaner headstock? That way you already have the packaging to send your headstock in and then send the loaner back? Just a thought.

BPR

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:14 am

dusty wrote:now has one less road block.

I have suddenly and unexpectedly been confronted with a decision. What dumbfounds me is how this came about. I was ranting about the Sawstop and the chance of that technology being mandated into our wood shops.

My wife, out of the blue, says "Why don't you just sell yours and buy a new one. Both of them, I mean. Sell both of the old Shopsmith's and get a new one with all the updated bells and whistles".

Now maybe she thinks that a new SS has all of the features of a new SS and when she found out that my new Shopsmith does not have SawStop technology I'd be in serious trouble. But, it is tempting.

Well, you can all guess the discussions that I am having with myself right now. I don't know that I can give up my original Mark V. It has been with me almost half of my adult life (well, about a third).

No matter what I decide right now, I now know that there are some kinks in her armor. She has stood fast throughout the last three or four years against my spending on new, unneeded shop equipment.

Dusty
I would not spend too much time worrying about this. The way I figure even if you sold both SS for top dollar. At todays resell value of a Mark V you would still be about $2000 short of a a new Mark 7.

Now what you might be able to do is part one machine out and have enough to help pay for the upgrades to bring your other machine up to Mark 7 abilities.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:36 am

Ed in Tampa wrote:Dusty
I would not spend too much time worrying about this. The way I figure even if you sold both SS for top dollar. At todays resell value of a Mark V you would still be about $2000 short of a a new Mark 7.

Now what you might be able to do is part one machine out and have enough to help pay for the upgrades to bring your other machine up to Mark 7 abilities.

You approach these things too much like a corporate accountant, Ed. When (if) I decide to buy a PowerPro, I will not have done a pay back analysis. My gut will tell me if I want it bad enough to spend the money.

moose · Post by **moose** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:47 am

Dusty, my opinion from using and observations of new products and models entering the market is that until a product gets well into the hands of consumers, problems arise. A new product can be tested in the factory and in the field until the fat lady sings but when they reach the masses, problems start to pop up. Look at what is constantly happening in automobile recalls. I promise, it won't be long before the second so called generation of the PP will be in the works and all of todays little problems will be resolved. I'm glad I don't have your delima heehee. Remember too though that you only have one life to live on this old earth so you might as well enjoy what you love while you can.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:59 am

ashbury wrote:Dusty, my opinion from using and observations of new products and models entering the market is that until a product gets well into the hands of consumers, problems arise. A new product can be tested in the factory and in the field until the fat lady sings but when they reach the masses, problems start to pop up. Look at what is constantly happening in automobile recalls. I promise, it won't be long before the second so called generation of the PP will be in the works and all of todays little problems will be resolved. I'm glad I don't have your delima heehee. Remember too though that you only have one life to live on this old earth so you might as well enjoy what you love while you can.

So true, ashbury, and that is why I ordered a few upgrades this past weekend.

I guess I won't be needing my speed increaser and a few other items anymore.