Dual Saw

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Thanks to some hinting on my part I received one of these for Xmas. The "Everyday" model CS450.
http://www.dualsaw.com/

I've used it a few times now for small odd task and look at it as a problem solver rather than a production tool. This week I had another "problem" to solve and it came through with flying colors.
I was refurbishing a small work bench for my retirement boot & shoe shop and was wanting to put a round lazy-susan top on it. I decided to bore a large hole in the center and glue a big dowel in the center for the new top to turn on. I also want to make some added use of the dowel so it is fairly tall.
I thought that the top had 3 pretty good sized dowels front to back in the top but I now know that those were counter-bore plugs to cover the three 3/8" bolts running through the heavy top.
Sadly I found the center one with a new Forstner bit... :eek: :eek: While boring the new hole. Luckily I didn't hurt the bit but I needed to get that section of bolt out of there. I decided that I didn't need the center one anyway with the other two holding.
Dual Saw to the rescue... I just sawed down through the wood top just outside of the new hole edges. When it hit the bolt it didn't even slow down. After a cut on each side I poped the piece of bolt out with a screwdriver and bored the hole on down into the top. I sanded the big dowel down a bit so it fit the hole better but was still a drive-in fit. I coated it with Tite-bond II and drove it in the hole. Then I mixed some Durham's Rock-Hard Water Putty a little thin and filled the saw slots. I believe that you could pick up a car with it now. :)
Here are pictures of before and after I cleaned up the little bench and painted it.
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Here is an early shot of the round top before I painted it. You can see the big dowel sticking up in the center. In this shot I just sat some of the stuff on it for a picture. I am going to cut 9" off of what will normally be the part turned to the front so that I have better access to the drawers. Otherwise the round top will be rotated to what ever work-station I need to use. Rather than put the top on small wheels or bearings I am just using some of those extra slick furniture sliders turned upside-down. They work great. A little over a buck each at Wally World.
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interesting

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I have asked them if they have dealers where I may actually see one. I passed on the Rockwell VersaCut saw because of the real possibility of serious kickback with very little grip area. These counter-rotating blades should minimize that.
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robinson46176 wrote: I was refurbishing a small work bench for my retirement boot & shoe shop and was....


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So Farmer, I have been retired a few years now and we do not seem to have any retirement boot or shoe stores in the area...you may have a real niche market there:D :D
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It is interesting on how I now view shoe repair. In the "good old days" and even during the later days when it was common for me to buy leather shoes it was also common to take the shoes in for repair rather then replacing them.

The last time I had taken shoes in for some sort of repair, don't even recall what the issue was, become my last time.

There was a local shop that I had used for a while and was happy enough to keep coming back to. There were two guys, I think a father/son who did the work. Then they were gone and a couple of new people appeared. I gave then the shoes and they said come back in 10 days. Now this was longer then I expected but hey if it will take 10 days that's fine.

I came back after the 10 days, sorry they are not ready yet... this went on for a couple of more times. Now it is 30 days. They tell me another 2 weeks. OK enough of that so I get my shoes back.

We have a local mall with a repair place right near one of the doors so it is an easy in and out, so I go there. They take my shoes and tell me come back in a couple of days. I'm encouraged. So after a few "couple of days" I have a seat in the mall within viewing distance of the shop while I want for the rest of the family to finish shopping.

In comes mostly women with all sorts of what look to be fancy shoes/boots etc. Women are coming picking up the same sort of shoes/boots. I start thinking, if my shoes are sitting there and need say $12 of repairs how much do they make on that? Not much I'd guess but those ladies who have shoes worth $100's of bucks now I bet they get charged a lot to have a repair done, heck maybe even $100's????

They are doing a brisk turn over so why make a few $ working on my shoes when you can make a lot more on the other shoes?

A few days later I picked up my still not worked on shoes. I gave up and the shoes sat here for years until one day when I put them in the garbage. And, no I don't even think about taking shoes in for repairs any more. I also only buy cheap replaceable shoes.

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Post by Gene Howe »

Nice re purpose job, Farmer. And a neat idea for the revolving tool shelf thingy.

I also only buy cheap replaceable shoes.
My philosophy, also. I wish it weren't so.
Wife and I each have a pair of good leather boots. We have to go 150 miles to get them resoled.
It's sad, on so many levels.
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Costco, Lowes, Menards

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I queried Fusion about where I might try one for fit. Our local Lowes is on my to-do list for tomorrow.
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Dualsaw at Lowes in Huntington Beach

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My Lowes has the 450 Dualsaw for $80 - in stock. It is so new they have a special separate display.

It comes in a nice case and I was able to take one out for size. The motor case where you hold it is pretty thick and your thumb has to hold the power switch on. It is a right handed tool unless the 2nd grip can be reversed but I think that would be awkward.

Maybe later if a specific need comes up like Farmer's.

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forrestb wrote:My Lowes has the 450 Dualsaw for $80 - in stock. It is so new they have a special separate display.

It comes in a nice case and I was able to take one out for size. The motor case where you hold it is pretty thick and your thumb has to hold the power switch on. It is a right handed tool unless the 2nd grip can be reversed but I think that would be awkward.

Maybe later if a specific need comes up like Farmer's.

Forrest



I mostly wanted one because I didn't have one. :) :) :)


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I wonder if I could get away with Farmer's reasoning on SWMBO???????

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forrestb wrote:I wonder if I could get away with Farmer's reasoning on SWMBO???????

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