Two Feet Of Snow

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:12 am

No boots? Heck, no shoes and socks.
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reftech · Post by **reftech** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:50 am

"two feet of snow". Thats funny right there:p

skou · Post by **skou** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:41 am

Idn-nat why they call it "snowflake?

Oh, drive over and see if my aunt Mary Louise is OK, if you would. Without uncle Jake, she's alone. (Well, except for the 12 kids and ALL the grandkids.)

Nice to hear from you, Gene!

steve

WmZiggy · Post by **WmZiggy** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:12 am

I watched the thermometer go from -19 to -20 as the Sun rose this morning and I ate breakfast. Usually drops a couple of degrees at sunrise, so I thought for sure we would hit -21.

Now we are built (homes, cars, etc.) to handle this stuff in North Dakota. However - and this is for all the global warming kooks out there - this is unusual for North Dakota in December and has maintained longer than we usually get this time of the year.

Since I was stationed in Antarctica in 05 I take some interest in what is going on there. Hit -135 at the Pole which is really unusual for them as they are in their summer. When I was there it hit -75 in December, which was also unusually cold (so much for global warming). Dressed like you were on the surface of the Moon I still could only stay outside 20 minutes. So I cannot even grasp -135. There is a club there called the 300 Club. They issue a patch. To join you have to have a -100 temp. Sit in the sauna till your body temp hits 100 degrees. Then run a 100 yards around the S. Pole naked except for shoes. One gentleman told me he frost bit his legs. I was amazed he didn't freeze something else.

That's real life humor in the cold today!

joshh · Post by **joshh** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:27 am

They can use the patch for a skin graft when frostbite and necrosis set in

fredsheldon · Post by **fredsheldon** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:31 pm

Global Warming, Climate Change, call it what you want. Call me nuts but I believe man has something to do with it and the worst is yet to come. 4.5 earthquake in OK at the center of Fracking

Don't get me started

dickg1 · Post by **dickg1** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:14 pm

fredsheldon wrote:Global Warming, Climate Change, call it what you want. Call me nuts but I believe man has something to do with it and the worst is yet to come. 4.5 earthquake in OK at the center of Fracking Don't get me started

From the USGS, re: Oklahoma
The first earthquake known to have centered in the State occurred in September 1918. A series of shocks at El Reno produced only minor effects] April 9, 1952[/URL], earthquake centered near El Reno affected most of Oklahoma and parts of Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, and Texas. Damage from the 10:30 a.m. CST earthquake was not extensive, but many people in the epicentral area were alarmed, some to near panic. Portions of chimneys fell in El Reno and Ponca City (intensity VII). Bricks loosened from a building wall and tile facing of commercial buildings bulged at Oklahoma City. Also, plate glass windows were shattered in the business district of El Reno. The total damage amounted to several thousand dollars. Aftershocks were felt on April 11, 15, and 16, July 16, and August 14; an earthquake that was felt (IV) at Holdenville and Wewoka on October 7 apparently was unrelated to the April 9th event. Homes and buildings shook and some persons were awakened (V) at El Reno from the April 16th shock, which occurred 5 minutes after midnight. Felt reports were also received from Kingfisher, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and Union City.
Minor damage to a building foundation and plaster (VI) at Concho resulted from two March 17, 1953, earthquakes about an hour apart. The felt area included Calumet, Edmond, El Reno, Minco, Okarche, Peidmont, and Union City.
On February 16, 1956, a shock at Edmond broke windows and cracked plaster (VI). It was also felt strongly at Guthrie, Oklahoma City, and Pawnee. Southeastern Oklahoma was disturbed by an earthquake on April 2, 1956, that produced thundering, rattling, and bumping noises that were heard by many citizens. Buildings shook and objects fell at Antlers, and many persons were alarmed (V). Minor effects were reported from other nearby towns. On October 30, 1956, an area of about 9,500 square kilometers in northeastern Oklahoma was shaken. The maximum intensity of VII was reported west of Catoosa, where a slippage of the formation caused an oil well to be shut down. Minor damage occurred at Beggs and Tulsa; and isolated felt report was received from Electra, Texas.
A broad area (approximately 31,000 square kilometers) of southwestern Oklahoma and the adjacent portion of Texas was affected by an early morning shock on June 17, 1959. Slight damage, consisting of cracks in plaster, pavement, and a house foundation (VI), occurred at Cache, Duncan, and Lawton. Houses were shaken, buildings swayed, and many persons were alarmed. A smaller earthquake on June 15 was felt by many at Ada and nearby places. Dishes were reported broken (V) and a trembling motion was observed.
On January 10, 1961, a mild shock was felt in Latimer and Pittsburgh Counties in southeastern Oklahoma. Thunderous earth sounds were heard in many places (V); no damage was reported. Another earthquake on April 27, 1961, awakened many (V) at Antlers, Coalgate, Hartshorne, Leflore, McCurtain, Panola, Poteau, Talihina, and Wilburton. Once again, thunderous, deep rumbling earth sounds were heard throughout the area.
An October 14, 1968, earthquake caused minor damage at Durant. Walls cracked, and glass in two structures broke (VI). The press reported that a 5 foot tall advertising stand fell over, and canned goods fell from a rack in a supermarket. Slight foreshocks were felt at Durant on October 10 and 11. Intensity IV effects from the October 14 shock were also noted at Caddo.
A magnitude 4.6 earthquake caused some cracked plaster (V) at Wewoka on May 2, 1969. Intensity V effects were reported at several other towns in the region. The total felt area included approximately 33,700 square kilometers in eastern Oklahoma.
Abridged from Earthquake Information Bulletin, Volume 8, Number 2, March - April 1976, by Carl A. von Hake.
For a list of earthquakes that have occurred since this article was written, use the Earthquake Search.

Questions:
Does the time frame cited above include any period of fracking - or were the incidents a natural phenomena? If natural, how are recent quakes attributed to fracking? What factual evidence exists that causes that attribution?

Dick

2centsworth · Post by **2centsworth** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:39 pm

fredsheldon wrote:Global Warming, Climate Change, call it what you want. Call me nuts but I believe man has something to do with it and the worst is yet to come. 4.5 earthquake in OK at the center of Fracking Don't get me started

It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. She will get back at you.

joshh · Post by **joshh** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:58 pm

I'm looking for the exact numbers re: fracking. It was something around 20 earthquakes in north Texas in the 100 years before cracking. Since fracking we have had hundreds. Nobody can convince me it's not directly related (even with the paid talking mouth "scientist" from TCU going on the news to say he proved its unrelated)

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:06 pm

joshh wrote:Nobody can convince me it's not directly related (even with the paid talking mouth "scientist" from TCU going on the news to say he proved its unrelated)

Yep outcome depends upon WHO is paying you.