Are there any differences between a bandsaw built in the 60's or 70's as compared to one that is built today other than age? In other words if you can find a bandsaw made for a Mark V 500 are there any differences to the ones sold today?
Thanks in advance.
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
rjent wrote:Are there any differences between a bandsaw built in the 60's or 70's as compared to one that is built today other than age? In other words if you can find a bandsaw made for a Mark V 500 are there any differences to the ones sold today?
Thanks in advance.
The main difference is the older bandsaw has a cast iron table that has two miter slots at right angles so you can use the miter gauge not only for cross cuts but as a rip fence. Newer ones have a a larger aluminum table with only one miter slot (can't use the miter gauge as a rip fence).
Other differences: lack of dust collection on older bandsaw covers and lack of plastic view port on cover to see tension gauge.
The "guts" I think have not changed.
rjent wrote:In other words if you can find a bandsaw made for a Mark V 500 are there any differences to the ones sold today?
Thanks in advance.
The older one can be upgraded. The TODAY one ya woodn't want to upgrade .
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Thanks al, can you "retrofit" dust collection? Since I am so new to this, is the old iron table a detrement, asset, or not much of a difference. Seems the bigger the table the better, but with no experience with SS ..... Is the rip fence meant to be used on the newer ones?algale wrote:The main difference is the older bandsaw has a cast iron table that has two miter slots at right angles so you can use the miter gauge not only for cross cuts but as a rip fence. Newer ones have a a larger aluminum table with only one miter slot (can't use the miter gauge as a rip fence).
Other differences: lack of dust collection on older bandsaw covers and lack of plastic view port on cover to see tension gauge.
The "guts" I think have not changed.
Sorry for all the questions, but I have found one that will work with my 7 (by your clarification), but is the new one better (I know, ambiguous LOL) or just more expensive ...
Thanks in advance!
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
YES you can retrofit the older to have dust collection and the newer aluminum table.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Several members have made their own dust collection fittings (search the forum) and I think the mothership even sells a kit.rjent wrote:Thanks al, can you "retrofit" dust collection? Since I am so new to this, is the old iron table a detrement, asset, or not much of a difference. Seems the bigger the table the better, but with no experience with SS ..... Is the rip fence meant to be used on the newer ones?
Sorry for all the questions, but I have found one that will work with my 7 (by your clarification), but is the new one better (I know, ambiguous LOL) or just more expensive ...
Thanks in advance!
The cast iron table vs. aluminum is a series of trade offs with no clear winner in my view.
Cast iron heavier (absorbs more vibration) but smaller work surface You get to use your miter gauge as a rip fence; also, with the smaller table, bandsaw can stay in place on pre-double tilt machines when going vertical.
Larger aluminum table lighter (more vibration), larger work surface. Can't use miter gauge as rip fence and must remove bandsaw to go vertical.
If you have a 510 or 520, the larger work surface of the aluminum table isn't that big a deal because there are ways to configure the 510/520 floating tables to make a huge work surface. But it is nice to have the large table if you've got an older machine without floating tables.
Al
algale wrote: Can't use miter gauge as rip fence and must remove bandsaw to go vertical.
Al
Ya just need a set of these to be able to raise to drill press mode, with the bandsaw on the SS.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... gtubes.htm
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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LOL, classic!beeg wrote:The older one can be upgraded. The TODAY one ya woodn't want to upgrade .
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
beeg wrote:Ya just need a set of these to be able to raise to drill press mode, with the bandsaw on the SS.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/bandsawecc_mountingtubes.htm
Don't own a set but have heard from a reputable source that they are very bouncy/springy.
