storage ideas

[reible]

Hi,

I just finished a couple of cabinets that fit under the shopsmith and use metal drawers (trays) sold by lee valley... The first part of the project was done some months ago when I did a snap on - snap off system with 4 drawers that attached to the lower tubes. This allows you to move the shopsmith and keep a few of your "needs" near by.

The new cabinets fit below this system and are on casters so they can be moved around independent of the shopsmith.

The shelf system is based on kerfs cut on 1-1/4" spacing and allows for 1", 2", and 3" drawers to be used interchangeably. With this cabinet the totals must add up to 11, so as pictured 2+3+3+3 = 11, you could also have 1+1+3+3+3 or 2+2+2+2+3 or ... well you get the idea. In this case the height was selected to fit under the snap on shelf with the shopsmith off its casters. The other crtical dimension of course is the height off the floor the cabinet sits due to the casters used.

So by now you are most likely wanting to see what I'm blabing on about so go to:

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http://new.photos.yahoo.com/elv60504@sbcglobal.net/album/576460762310294893

New link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12199425@N02/sets/72157601724517463/
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12/31/2008
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I have more of the details about this project at the ssug.org site, search for "snap on".

If you're interested in the tray system go to leevalley.com and take a look, they have a instuction sheet that give you dimensions and assembly instuctions.

While you are there at the photo page feel free to look at the other photos related to the shopsmith.

Ed

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[Ed in Tampa]

Hey Ed

Two Ed's are better than one. ( sorry about that)

Nice looking cabinets.
For anyone trying to find the drawers at Lee Valley they are called
Veritas® Toolbox Trays and can be found at http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... 3326,43330

I went crazy trying to find them.

Also the same concept can be done in simple wood trays with the flange at the bottom.
Using Masonite or tempered fibre board as the bottom cut oversize so a 1/4-1/2 inch flange sticks out on the sides. This flange then becomes the drawer slide that slides into 1/4 inch wide cuts made in the cabinet side. The fronts/backs and sides of the drawer can be simple butt contruction with the width of the wood determining the depth of the drawer.

If you decide to use the wood drawers make sure you cut the slide kerf in the cabinet sides starting at the bottom since unlike the metal drawers the woods ones have their support flanges on the bottom.
Ed

[Greenvilleguy]

Many, many years ago, I built a wooden trough that hangs from the bottom tubes. I think the plans may have actually come from SS. Anyway, the idea was to catch sawdust (hey, this was before dust collectors), but it's great for holding accessories like the drill chuck, saw blades, push sticks, etc.

I'll try and get downstairs tomorrow and take a picture. It's simple, it holds alot and can be built in a few hours.

[chrispitude]

I just upgraded my used 500 (which basically came with nothing) to a 520 that now has all sorts of extra doodads and whatnot. I would be interested in seeing more pictures of under-Shopsmith storage that my fellow owners have come up with! I like the idea of attached storage so the storage adds weight and stability to the unit, and so it stays with the unit as I move it around my garage.

Let's see some pictures!

- Chris

[Greenvilleguy]

Looking at this thread, I noticed that I promised to post a picture of my "Trough" and didn't. I found the pictures, but they were too large to post and I guess it was before I learned how to shrink them.

Well, it can't compete with the cabinets above and it certainly isn't for neat freaks; but it's an easy catchall. I found the plans from SS in a packet called Dust Collection. It was before the DC3300.

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[Ed in Tampa]

Hi,

I just finished a couple of cabinets that fit under the shopsmith and use metal drawers (trays) sold by lee valley... The first part of the project was done some months ago when I did a snap on - snap off system with 4 drawers that attached to the lower tubes. This allows you to move the shopsmith and keep a few of your "needs" near by.

The new cabinets fit below this system and are on casters so they can be moved around independent of the shopsmith.

The shelf system is based on kerfs cut on 1-1/4" spacing and allows for 1", 2", and 3" drawers to be used interchangeably. With this cabinet the totals must add up to 11, so as pictured 2+3+3+3 = 11, you could also have 1+1+3+3+3 or 2+2+2+2+3 or ... well you get the idea. In this case the height was selected to fit under the snap on shelf with the shopsmith off its casters. The other crtical dimension of course is the height off the floor the cabinet sits due to the casters used.

So by now you are most likely wanting to see what I'm blabing on about so go to:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/elv60504@sbcglobal.net/album/576460762310294893

New link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12199425@N ... 724517463/

I have more of the details about this project at the ssug.org site, search for "snap on".

If you're interested in the tray system go to leevalley.com and take a look, they have a instuction sheet that give you dimensions and assembly instuctions.

While you are there at the photo page feel free to look at the other photos related to the shopsmith.

Ed

Edit to point to pictures at new location

Ed
I know this was asked before but what is the wood clamp on the way tube seen in picture P5200043 for?

Also if you can what do you estimate the total cost for the drawers, wood and casters was?

I'm quickly coming face to face with the fact that I must redo my garage shop once again.
First my work bench is against the wall which makes using it from any other side nearly impossible.
Second it is right in front of the Air conditioner which forces me to stand in the direct line of the air, which is not good. Since that can cause a condition called Bells palsy and in my body my muscles and joints lock up.
Third with my work bench where it is at if I leave enough room so my wife's car door doesn't hit my truck I have to do some rather interesting moves to get out.
Fourthly I presently store my bandsaw at head level over top or my Hot Water tank. That requires lifting it higher than my head with my arms fully extended to reach over the hot water tank. I can do it now but I see the time coming when I won't be able to.
Fifth I must have lived with my wife too long (43 years) since I get these urges to rearrange things.

The reason I'm asking about price is, I'm trying ot determine if it might not be cheaper to buy some of those heavy duty roll around cabinets I saw in Sams which have super duty locking casters and 1 3/4 inch maple tops for $150. I priced castors the other day and was shocked to find them running about $10-15 a piece. Add to that some ply ($25+) then the drawers and your get real near the Sam's price. Of course they aren't custom made by a renowned craftsman and they won't roll under my Shopsmith.
Ed

[reible]

Ed
I know this was asked before but what is the wood clamp on the way tube seen in picture P5200043 for?

I have several projects under way so it could be one of my experiments or maybe because of where it is mounted a bracket to hold a flex-arm lamp.

Also if you can what do you estimate the total cost for the drawers, wood and casters was?

Most of the wood was left overs from other projects and without doing a layout on a full sheet it might be hard to guess. Each of the cubes is somewhere like 12" wide, 13" deep and 15-1/2" tall. They are made out of 3/4" plywood and have an 1/8" masonite back.

The casters are just plain ones with them coming in a pkg of two for like $3.89. They are rated at 150 pounds per set of 4 and I have sat and skooted on them putting the load well over that with nothing happening. So a little math puts that cost at like $32 for all of them.

I'm quickly coming face to face with the fact that I must redo my garage shop once again.
First my work bench is against the wall which makes using it from any other side nearly impossible.
Second it is right in front of the Air conditioner which forces me to stand in the direct line of the air, which is not good. Since that can cause a condition called Bells palsy and in my body my muscles and joints lock up.
Third with my work bench where it is at if I leave enough room so my wife's car door doesn't hit my truck I have to do some rather interesting moves to get out.
Fourthly I presently store my bandsaw at head level over top or my Hot Water tank. That requires lifting it higher than my head with my arms fully extended to reach over the hot water tank. I can do it now but I see the time coming when I won't be able to.
Fifth I must have lived with my wife too long (43 years) since I get these urges to rearrange things.

The reason I'm asking about price is, I'm trying ot determine if it might not be cheaper to buy some of those heavy duty roll around cabinets I saw in Sams which have super duty locking casters and 1 3/4 inch maple tops for $150. I priced castors the other day and was shocked to find them running about $10-15 a piece. Add to that some ply ($25+) then the drawers and your get real near the Sam's price. Of course they aren't custom made by a renowned craftsman and they won't roll under my Shopsmith.
Ed

The casters need to be load rated. If you are going to really load up a cabinet how much weight are you talking about??? I would have to guess that loaded mine run from say 50 to 75 pounds. Well within the load limits of these casters. If I were to take this our on the driveway and sidewalks and pull it around a lot then I would go to heavier duty wheels... the garage floor where they are intended to stay is fine. If I recall they are 1-7/8" dia.

The metal trays for the whole project including the snap on part require 8 2" trays and 12 3" trays. Depending on how you want your set-up this could change. Anyway the 2" trays are now going for $8.60 ea in that quanity or $69. The 3" trays are $9.80 ea for $118. I had some loose fitting hinges so I have no $ value I can give for those, the brass rod was maybe like $2 but I still have some of that left... then of course some screws and glue.

So as a very ruff number with say $30 for wood, $32 for casters, $187 for drawers, and say another $10 for other supplies brings the total to $259 without shipping costs. Add the $1.50 an hour labor and well these are not cheap but then on the other hand you do pick up a fair amount of storage, and 20 more drawers to hide things from yourself in. ( I was able to keep my cost lower by getting the casters at a bag sale for 20% off and I got the drawers before they raised the prices twice as of now... along with having left over plywood to use. I'm not sure I would build these at the new prices... I paid only $156 for the drawers).


You might want to look at the shopsmith set now on sale for $378.24 and the free postage deal. Or that sams one?? Or maybe you don't mind the fun of building your own.

Ed

[curiousgeorge]

Ed in Tampa, I have the Cabinet from Sam's and it was a great addition to my shop. The top is so nice, I keep a piece of cardboard on it so it won't get messed up . I also have the matching work bench, the only problem is SHMBO confiscated it to use as a breakfast bar in the house , although I must admit it works (and looks) great there.

[reible]

I think this is in another thread somewhere but I don't feel like looking for it today and then even if I did find it the location of the photos might be wrong, so anyway...

This is a take off of the original plans shopsmith had for an under the shopsmith cabinet. I built that first but didn't like it all that well and so I built another and I didn't like that really well either (I may have even built a third version, I don't even remember anymore). Then I did the version pictured. I have since cut the ears off and did a few other mods but it gives you the general idea. The drawers pull out either side and it rolls around by itself... no long attached to the shopsmith. I found I like it much better this way but then maybe other like the extra weight??? You can also see how I did a wall hanging in this group.

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Blade storage is shown at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12199425@N02/sets/72157601718312994/
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Sorry I have no pictures of previous version but I think the orginal plans might be from one of the Hands On Mags.

Ed