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Shorty vs. Mini vs. Shop Deputy
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:57 pm
by cooch366
Once again excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get in my head the differences surrounding the above.
My understanding (and please correct me) is:
A Shop Deputy and a Mini are the same (No carriage & same length tubes) but a Mini has legs where a Shop Deputy has none.
A Shorty is a cut down full size version (cutting off 14", 16" 18") that has a legs and carriage.
Is this it? Am I missing anything?
Thanks... Steve
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:09 pm
by dusty
cooch366 wrote:Once again excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get in my head the differences surrounding the above.
My understanding (and please correct me) is:
A Shop Deputy and a Mini are the same (No carriage & same length tubes) but a Mini has legs where a Shop Deputy has none.
A Shorty is a cut down full size version (cutting off 14", 16" 18") that has a legs and carriage.
Is this it? Am I missing anything?
Thanks... Steve
I think you pretty much got it.
I might get run out of town or kicked off the forum but here is how I see it.
A few of us, probably Bill Mayo before anyone else, saw a need and/or a market for "cut down versions" of the full size Mark V. There are many. They are not all the same size and they are not all used the same way. These all came into being long before the Shop Deputy.
I have mine primarily because I needed a "permanent" spot for my drill press and belt sander. They reside on opposite ends of the Shorty. At the same time, the jointer sits "permanently" on the right end of the full size Mark V which almost never goes vertical anymore.
Shopsmith saw the market opportunity and introduced the Shop Deputy which you have accurately described as a mini (26" way tubes) without legs. It sits on a bench much like the 10E. In fact, it might be considered an offshoot of the 10.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:07 pm
by squashfest81
Later this winter I plan to cut down my Mark V. The Mark VII has gone 510 and will live primarily as a table saw and house the Jointer. The cut down machine will hold the bandsaw and act as a sanding station.
The question. I set the bandsaw on the machine, left room for removal of the coupler, and the use of the carriage. I figure I can cut 19 inches. Everything I've read recomends cutting 14, 16, or 18. Am I missing something? I don't have a belt sanded or scroll, so possibly that is the reason? I don't see this effecting drill press mode as there appears to be room?
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:12 pm
by ChrisNeilan
squashfest81 wrote:Later this winter I plan to cut down my Mark V. The Mark VII has gone 510 and will live primarily as a table saw and house the Jointer. The cut down machine will hold the bandsaw and act as a sanding station.
The question. I set the bandsaw on the machine, left room for removal of the coupler, and the use of the carriage. I figure I can cut 19 inches. Everything I've read recomends cutting 14, 16, or 18. Am I missing something? I don't have a belt sanded or scroll, so possibly that is the reason? I don't see this effecting drill press mode as there appears to be room?
Just remember, the more you cut off, the lower your drill press table will be. Don't take off too much, hard to add it back on!:rolleyes:
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:52 am
by Gene Howe
+1
I wouldn't take more than 18" off.
ChrisNeilan wrote:Just remember, the more you cut off, the lower your drill press table will be. Don't take off too much, hard to add it back on!:rolleyes:
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:43 am
by squashfest81
If I'm understanding, the concern is regarding limited use of the drill press and not concering the use of spt's?
Thanks,
Yes...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:39 am
by 2centsworth
If you plan on using it in drill press mode.[ATTACH]26924[/ATTACH] motor reversed in this picture but you can see it limits the space between the table and the drill chuck. You can always remove the table for more room.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:54 am
by JPG
2centsworth wrote:If you plan on using it in drill press mode.[ATTACH]26924[/ATTACH] motor reversed in this picture but you can see it limits the space between the table and the drill chuck. You can always remove the table for more room.
Cut the bench tubes only, leave the way tubes full length and this 'problem' goes away.
Not sure re table removal.

So this is?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:05 pm
by cooch366
A. A mini
B. A shorty
C. Just a drill press:)
Inquiring minds want to know?
[quote="JPG"]Cut the bench tubes only, leave the way tubes full length and this 'problem' goes away.]
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:21 pm
by JPG
cooch366 wrote:A. A mini
B. A shorty
C. Just a drill press:)
Inquiring minds want to know?
It is what you want it to be.

The 'name' does not matter.
'Generally' if it still can function as a table saw, it is a shorty, if too short for that, a mini. Opinions vary as to the 'ideal' length.
For a 'power station', it depends upon what you intend to power.

Too long can be circumvented up to 4" with the quill.