Second stage dust collector

termite06 · Post by **termite06** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:47 pm

Has anyone tried the cyclone trashcan lid from Woodcraft?
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=4310
Im thinking about getting one to protect my fan blade.

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:32 am

Hi termite06,
Grizzly has them too, only cheaper! (4 cents cheaper)

http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2008/Main/184

BTW, The larger one is made in the USA, I don't know if that is true or not about the smaller one, as it is not labeled in the Grizzly catolog, but the same company ownes the patent on both of them.

guvnuh4 · Post by **guvnuh4** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:07 am

couldn't you just make one?

I know when my dad started sheet rocking our house after a whole home rennovation, he created something pretty similar for the sanding dust. He just took an empty 5 gallon mud bucket and cut to holes in the top of the lid. Put pieces of PVC pipe into each and put a rubber elbow on the top of each piece, then he could hook the sanding screen to one port and the shop vac to the other, fill the bucket half full with water (that's actually what traps the dust), and, viola, exponentially less plaster dust.

The same could probably be done with this as well, all told you could probably spend less than $10 on supplies (not including the trashcan... since they aren't selling one either...), and most of that will be in the 5' piece of 1.5 inch PVC pipe that you'll only need 1 to 2 feet from...

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:06 pm

termite06 wrote:Has anyone tried the cyclone trashcan lid from Woodcraft?
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=4310
Im thinking about getting one to protect my fan blade.

After breaking a fan with a piece that measured 1/2"X3/4"X3/4", I bought one of these http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1515 . Less than $22.

I got the small one that fits a 5 gallon can. I only need it when vacuuming up the floor. It worked good but was a real pain in the Ass. Always falling over, Always a difficulty, when moving the DC more than a few inches, bumping it over. Now it is a part that just sits and stares at me and never gets used.

I decided to do away with it's use and just be careful when floor cleaning. This later choice is a lot easier for me.

One way to help prevent fan damage is to always put the active hose into one of the side manifold holes, open the other side gate, and put the stop into the lower hole. I've found the lower hole plug catches a lot of little cutoff chunks that I don't pick up. However this isn't a sure thing - just a help.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:58 pm

charlese wrote:.
.......One way to help prevent fan damage is to always put the active hose into one of the side manifold holes, open the other side gate, and put the stop into the lower hole. I've found the lower hole plug catches a lot of little cutoff chunks that I don't pick up. .....

I wonder if it would help to connect that lower hose into a larger container. Maybe even just a short section of hose that has been capped off.

I'm like you, the lower cap is always full of crude. If it was larger, would the larger clips be collected there rather than flow into the fan blade?

I knew there was a reason not to discard that old hose when I replaced it.

friscomike · Post by **friscomike** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:56 pm

Howdy Chuck,

Just assembled the DC3300, so am a newby with it. Why do you open the opposite gate?

Best Regards,
mike

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:03 pm

Hi Mike! The reason I open the opposite door when vacuuming the floor is to lower the CFM air flow into the machine from the floor wand. I have reasoned a slower air flow, although high enough for floor care, will slow down "pieces" from rushing into the fan.

BTW, When eating lunch today, I thought about my above post and my non-use of the centrifuge bucket. Had a new idea! (not dangerous)

Now I am going to try putting a couple of bricks in the bucket (maybe big rocks) to hold it down. Come to think of it, a full gallon jug of water with a closed top will work too. If the added weight works, I'll pass it on.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:02 pm

charlese wrote:Hi Mike! The reason I open the opposite door when vacuuming the floor is to lower the CFM air flow into the machine from the floor wand. I have reasoned a slower air flow, although high enough for floor care, will slow down "pieces" from rushing into the fan.

BTW, When eating lunch today, I thought about my above post and my non-use of the centrifuge bucket. Had a new idea! (not dangerous)

Now I am going to try putting a couple of bricks in the bucket (maybe big rocks) to hold it down. Come to think of it, a full gallon jug of water with a closed top will work too. If the added weight works, I'll pass it on.

You could also put it on a dolly so that it will move with you when you drag the hose around.

friscomike · Post by **friscomike** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:58 am

Howdy,

Thanks Chuck, makes sense about opening the opposite port. The brick idea is really clever, too.

Happy trails,
mike

james.miller · Post by **james.miller** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:34 pm

I built an old fashioned Drop Box. It's a little on the small side so it doesn't get all of the chips but gets most of the big stuff. The larger the size the more efficient any type of separator is.