Pro planer. Help on another forum

cincinnati · Post by **cincinnati** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:14 pm

Here is a link to someone who is asking about the Shopsmith planer if anyone cares to chime in.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread. ... post825052

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:50 am

cincinnati wrote:Here is a link to someone who is asking about the Shopsmith planer if anyone cares to chime in.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=825052&posted=1#post825052

Hi Dave,
I am not registered there, so I can't post; however, I did read the thread. You might want to point out the separate feed motor and variable feed speed.

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:24 am

cincinnati wrote:Here is a link to someone who is asking about the Shopsmith planer if anyone cares to chime in.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread. ... post825052

Sorry! I'm still wearing a chip on my shoulder from when sawmill creek wouldn't let me join their forum during a time when we were writing to defend the Mark V. During that time, they also didn't allow reible onto their forum.

Seriously, I don't have time for any forums other than this one. Computerring already takes too much time away from making sawdust and chips.

paul heller · Post by **paul heller** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:40 am

charlese wrote:I'm still wearing a chip on my shoulder from when sawmill creek wouldn't let me join their forum during a time when we were writing to defend the Mark V. During that time, they also didn't allow reible onto their forum.

I'm wearing a chip as well from the experience. Yet I was one who was able to join and post over there. I think we over did it, however. I'm not sure we actually helped our cause. People always seem to become defensive when a "group" shows up and pours a bunch of sugar into a discussion. Those people can no longer see the new opinions for what they are but instead see them as somehow biased. That happened big time with the sawmill creek experience.

Paul

BigSky · Post by **BigSky** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:50 am

Were you guys "denied access" or did you get tired of waiting for the screening process?

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:06 am

paul heller wrote:I'm wearing a chip as well from the experience. Yet I was one who was able to join and post over there. I think we over did it, however. I'm not sure we actually helped our cause. People always seem to become defensive when a "group" shows up and pours a bunch of sugar into a discussion. Those people can no longer see the new opinions for what they are but instead see them as somehow biased. That happened big time with the sawmill creek experience.

Paul

Paul I totally agree. First I think it nearly impossible to change someone's opinion. You might be able to open their eyes to a wrong assumption but if it is their opinion then probably not. I think by piling on like we did rendered our efforts nearly worthless.

Also Shopsmith is battling a mentality that says bigger is better and you have to have equipment like Norm has to be a "real" woodworker. I think times are changing radically in our society, in the past innovation and quality were sought after qualities. Today it seems you must have the product mentioned in magazine reviews or on TV programs.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:34 am

You guys have me a bit confused with your discussion about Sawmill Creek. Actually, a comment about us ganging up and maybe not serving our cause is the confusing part. The only times I recall that "we ganged up" did not involve Sawmill Creek. It was an effort to get Shopsmith included on "Made in America".

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:03 pm

[quote="a1gutterman"]Hi Dave,
I am not registered there, so I can't post]

You can register on SMC if you want to. The registration process is the same as for this forum except that they review applications in an attempt to keep out unwanted members (commercial interests, porn, the like). The process takes several days because they are so large and growing so fast.

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:36 pm

dusty wrote:You guys have me a bit confused with your discussion about Sawmill Creek. Actually, a comment about us ganging up and maybe not serving our cause is the confusing part. The only times I recall that "we ganged up" did not involve Sawmill Creek. It was an effort to get Shopsmith included on "Made in America".

Hi Dusty! To help you get over your confusion, Here is the Thread:
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=825

That all happened last October, A long time for memory, or maybe not long enough! If you are in a hurry - just check out posts 17,18 and 21 on the referenced thread.

8iowa · Post by **8iowa** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:46 pm

Getting back to the Pro Planer; I have become a regular on the Lumberjocks forum, and there is a review of the Pro planer on this site. (link in previous posting) I made a comment in this review, but there is very little interest.

Postings about planer recommendations come up frequently on this forum. I have found that it is useless to recommend the Pro Planer. Between the magazines with their advertisements and "reviews", and the marketing clout of the big boxes, the woodworking public is hooked on the benchtop planer.

Actually, when I read these threads, many individuals are not exactly happy with their planers. Some of these tools are now priced well over $500, not exactly cheap, yet, the mindset is so firmly fixed that they keep on recommending these sub-par planers to each other, so the cycle continues. It is going to be tough for any other type of planer to capture anything but a small percentage of the market.