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Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:33 pm
by Billyo
Hi there, I am facing a problem with my 1985 Shopsmith. I've been using my Shopsmith for about 3 years. Over this time I upgraded it into a 520 with no problems until last week when I noticed a weird noise. After reading what could be I removed the quill and both bearing were out, so I purchased a set of new ones and have them replaced in a machine shop; at the same time I checked the drive sleeve assembly and changed the bearings too. While doing this I noticed the belts were in bad shape so I ordered both of them. I followed the instruction sent by Shopsmith and now I have no noise but the problems are: the dial speed is hard to turn it 9 (it was hard in the beginning but now is worse) and problem 2 is that I turn my Shopsmith in slow and as I turn it to fast little by little it just wont speed up; then I turn it down a little and start speeding up but it takes its time to speed up. Any ideas what did I do wrong? I really will appreciate any help anyone can give me. :confused:

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:40 pm
by lyall
Hi and welcome to the forums

I have a 1986 SS and I replaced the bearings and belts in mine about a month ago. I also noticed that the speed control was hard to turn as I checked quadrant assembly teeth. The teeth had a burr on the teeth. I lightly filed the burr off, trying to keep the alignment of the teeth. I back it together and the speed control turns a lot better and smoother.
Remember the teeth on the quadrant are aluminum and the worm control shaft is steel.

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check part number 86 - quadrant assmbly
check part number 87 - worm control shaft

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:44 pm
by JPG
Been oiling the sheaves?

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:01 am
by lyall
I have been

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:07 am
by JPG
A sluggish response to speed control changes is usually caused by the floating sheave(motor shaft) not moving along the shaft freely.

And NEVER force the speed knob towards SLOW.

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:15 am
by Billyo
Hi there, good morning! Today, as soon as I get home, will check the teeth on both items. I really appreciate that.
lyall wrote:Hi and welcome to the forums

I have a 1986 SS and I replaced the bearings and belts in mine about a month ago. I also noticed that the speed control was hard to turn as I checked quadrant assembly teeth. The teeth had a burr on the teeth. I lightly filed the burr off, trying to keep the alignment of the teeth. I back it together and the speed control turns a lot better and smoother.
Remember the teeth on the quadrant are aluminum and the worm control shaft is steel.

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check part number 86 - quadrant assmbly
check part number 87 - worm control shaft

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:26 am
by Billyo
Hi there, good morning. I have never oiled the sheaves due to my ignorance. Sorry :( Which oil should I use? and how much? Should I oil all the 6 sheaves? Every when should I oil such? In addition, I understand that the sluggish is due to the motor shaft not moving the way it should. Should I remove the belts oil the sheaves and then? (besides putting back the belts on) Please be patient with me is the first time I am giving service to my SS.
JPG wrote:A sluggish response to speed control changes is usually caused by the floating sheave(motor shaft) not moving along the shaft freely.

And NEVER force the speed knob towards SLOW.

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:40 am
by lyall

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:26 am
by Billyo
Gosh Lyall. Thank you for the great tip. Is amazing how many mistakes we can make every day for lack of knowledge. Thank you. I will oil my SS sheaves TODAY and see what happens. :D :)

Re: Speed control dial and speed rpm

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:28 am
by Billyo
One last thing! Should I use 3 in 1 oil perhaps? or some good quality motor oil.
Billyo wrote:Gosh Lyall. Thank you for the great tip. Is amazing how many mistakes we can make every day for lack of knowledge. Thank you. I will oil my SS sheaves TODAY and see what happens. :D :)