Safety Question

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

suntower
Gold Member
Posts: 79
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:58 pm
Location: Seattle

Safety Question

Post by suntower »

This may seem stupid but... what else is new.

I've got this inherited Greenie and I'm wondering if/how I can prevent myself from getting hurt... or if I'm worrying too much.

Perhaps 'TMI' but I've been pretty sick recently. I'm better now, but the lasting result is that I'm not always as 'there' as I used to be. Just the deal.

Anyhoo, I've been practicing doing 'change overs' (like Susan) and I can easily see myself forgetting to lock something and... something bad happening.

I've got various table saws, router table, drill press, etc. And for some reason, I'm not concerned about them at all.

But because there are so many things to 'lock' on the Shopsmith (especially going to vertical) it seems like one needs to be more careful. And things like the plastic power transfer gizmo between the spindle and the jointer give me pause. (Looks kinda flimsy)

Has anyone else felt this way? I guess I'm still at the point of wondering if the thing is -safe- and what to look out for.

For example: I'm thinking I should out up a BIG safety sign with a list of things to remember next to the machine until it becomes second nature.

I hope this doesn't come off as insulting. I realise y'all have a lot invested in your machines.

Mainly, I just want to know if there's anything special I should keep in mind to avoid killing myself. :D


Cheers,

---JC
Greenie #317956. Jointer Model 620 #40077
User avatar
rpd
Platinum Member
Posts: 3045
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:22 am
Location: Victoria, B.C.

Re: Safety Question

Post by rpd »

Not insulting at all. :) Your concern just shows a healthy desire to not damage yourself or you machine. :cool:
A "Check List" would be a great idea. :)
Pilots use them on aircraft to avoid making mistakes, or errors of omission. :eek: Even surgeons are starting to use them for the same reason.
Ron Dyck
==================================================================
10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: Safety Question

Post by ERLover »

suntower wrote:This may seem stupid but... what else is new.

I've got this inherited Greenie and I'm wondering if/how I can prevent myself from getting hurt... or if I'm worrying too much.

Perhaps 'TMI' but I've been pretty sick recently. I'm better now, but the lasting result is that I'm not always as 'there' as I used to be. Just the deal.

Anyhoo, I've been practicing doing 'change overs' (like Susan) and I can easily see myself forgetting to lock something and... something bad happening.

I've got various table saws, router table, drill press, etc. And for some reason, I'm not concerned about them at all.

First off I am 64 and have all my digits!!! I have done some over the top stuff, but based on past things and knowledge I new I could.
With that said, read on safety, practice it and always watch where your hands are, not always the line or what ever you are cutting, WATCH where your hands are to the danger zone with one eye, the other on what you are doing, it comes practice and dicibline.

But because there are so many things to 'lock' on the Shopsmith (especially going to vertical) it seems like one needs to be more careful. And things like the plastic power transfer gizmo between the spindle and the jointer give me pause. (Looks kinda flimsy)

Has anyone else felt this way? I guess I'm still at the point of wondering if the thing is -safe- and what to look out for.

For example: I'm thinking I should out up a BIG safety sign with a list of things to remember next to the machine until it becomes second nature.

I hope this doesn't come off as insulting. I realise y'all have a lot invested in your machines.

Mainly, I just want to know if there's anything special I should keep in mind to avoid killing myself. :D


Cheers,

---JC
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
wa2crk
Platinum Member
Posts: 3080
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:37 am
Location: Leesburg, Fl

Re: Safety Question

Post by wa2crk »

I felt the same after my hip surgeries. It will go away as you get more relaxed.
Bill V
User avatar
rjent
Platinum Member
Posts: 2121
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:00 pm
Location: Hot Springs, New Mexico

Re: Safety Question

Post by rjent »

As a pilot myself, checklists are used to keep a flyer from taking shortcuts. We all get comfortable (sometimes too comfortable) and a check list can bring you back to earth (pun intended :D). There is the clockwise mental check list of quill, headstock, carriage, table lift, table tilt. JPG taught me that one and I use it every time I turn the machine on.

Check list on the wall is not a bad idea ....

JMHO
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
davebodner
Gold Member
Posts: 476
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:38 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Re: Safety Question

Post by davebodner »

There is the clockwise mental check list of quill, headstock, carriage, table lift, table tilt. JPG taught me that one and I use it every time I turn the machine on.
I learned that here, too. Not that I can remember all the names, but I know there are 5 things I need to tighten. That much I can remember.
And things like the plastic power transfer gizmo between the spindle and the jointer give me pause. (Looks kinda flimsy)
That's a good thing. If everything's running correctly, it's plenty strong. If something goes haywire, it's an inexpensive, easily replaceable part that'll strip before you do real damage to something else.

Something that helped me, especially in the beginning, was rehearsing some of my cuts. With the machine off, I'll pretend to move my piece over the blade. Do I like where my feet are? Where my hands are? Can I add another safety device?
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Safety Question

Post by JPG »

To the '5' (sometimes '4') add the vertical lock screw when going to drill press mode. DO release prior to lowering to horizontal. ;)

As for remembering to lock the headstock prior to raising to vertical, once you forget, the experience will permanently cause thee to remember to do so. :eek:
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21530
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Re: Safety Question

Post by dusty »

JPG wrote:To the '5' (sometimes '4') add the vertical lock screw when going to drill press mode. DO release prior to lowering to horizontal. ;)

As for remembering to lock the headstock prior to raising to vertical, once you forget, the experience will permanently cause thee to remember to do so. :eek:
Once may not be enough. I have raised it or started to several times. Yes, the experience should bring with it a lesson well learned but don't count on it.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Safety Question

Post by JPG »

dusty wrote:
JPG wrote:To the '5' (sometimes '4') add the vertical lock screw when going to drill press mode. DO release prior to lowering to horizontal. ;)

As for remembering to lock the headstock prior to raising to vertical, once you forget, the experience will permanently cause thee to remember to do so. :eek:
Once may not be enough. I have raised it or started to several times. Yes, the experience should bring with it a lesson well learned but don't count on it.
Some folks learn slowly. :D :D :D
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
reible
Platinum Member
Posts: 11283
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:08 pm
Location: Aurora, IL

Re: Safety Question

Post by reible »

I always check how fast it is set to run at......... so far so good for me but I have heard of people hooking up the bandsaw with the headstock set to run at saw speed..............

The powerpro is nice in that it asks you to confirm running in reverse and or rpms above 1500 so you get a second chance to not mess things up.

Ed
{Knight of the Shopsmith} [Hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags]
Post Reply