ER low speeed RPMs

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

Well as I type, Skip at MKC Tools is making a 6" diam Er HS pulley, I am not a metallurgist, but his pulleys weigh about 2x more then the original ones and have casting Manufacturing Names on them the back side, maybe denser Aluminum or Investment Cast, I dont know. They sure make a difference.
With JPGs math and belt size calculations, that puppy will be at 320rpm on the low end of the SC, I dont care about the high end for a dedicate DP, it will be fast enough for most stuff but wanted slower for large diam Fostner bits and to see if we could just do it, Skip and I with JPGs support on the #s. I forgot what top end on an ER with a SC was on the low belt setting, I think about 1100ish rpms, but now I am guessing about 900ish which is fine for my use with smaller bits in wood.
I just hope JPGs belt sizing is correct, after all he did the math on it for Skip :eek: :)
Thats okay JPG I will get them on your calculation and a 1/2 fat and skinny and report in on how close you hit the mark and reward/loose points accordingly. :)
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
skou
Platinum Member
Posts: 1944
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:53 am
Location: Mesa (near Phoenix) Az

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by skou »

Lover, just so you know.
Skip IS the man! Don't sweat
it! He'll do you right.

He's NEVER let me down.

steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.

Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

skou wrote:Lover, just so you know.
Skip IS the man! Don't sweat
it! He'll do you right.

He's NEVER let me down.

steve
Me either, doing a 6" on a HS, according to JPG, who the nuns did not teach him to something/ lowest denominator on fractions LOL, but I got it :) I got the Math, I got low end for Large Fostner Bits in the 200+ range and at top speed I will be about 900rpm, more then I need for wood.
Steeve I just cant figure out why his pulleys weight 2x more and they are from the originals, cast Aluminum also. He is a good guy, no money up front for this. Why, because he is an ER lover too!!!!!!! :D
Thanks JPG on the rpm math and belt sizing, you are a SS/Math Wizard!!!!!!Along with a few others here just on the SS side.
It feels SSSOOOOOO nice to be at home and no burden over head, and have some Puccini on.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by JPG »

ERLover wrote:
skou wrote:Lover, just so you know.
Skip IS the man! Don't sweat
it! He'll do you right.

He's NEVER let me down.

steve
Me either, doing a 6" on a HS, according to JPG, who the nuns did not teach him to something/ lowest denominator on fractions LOL, but I got it :) I got the Math, I got low end for Large Fostner Bits in the 200+ range and at top speed I will be about 900rpm, more then I need for wood.
Steeve I just cant figure out why his pulleys weight 2x more and they are from the originals, cast Aluminum also. He is a good guy, no money up front for this. Why, because he is an ER lover too!!!!!!! :D
Thanks JPG on the rpm math and belt sizing, you are a SS/Math Wizard!!!!!!Along with a few others here just on the SS side.
It feels SSSOOOOOO nice to be at home and no burden over head, and have some Puccini on.
Take a close look. The cast pulleys have depressions that reduce the amount of metal.

BTW fractions are no longer 'taught' in our 'educational' system same as cursive writing. At least I have been told that.

No need for all that old timey stuff today - we now use computers.




Lord help the next generation!
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

I just got of the phone/camera with Skip, he was on vacation since mid Aug till 9/18, 6" pulley is on the way, I told him no hurry and ordered up an other set of his machined and balanced ER pulleys and the ER tool rest handles for the nephew b4 he went on vacation.
We talked about the nephews Greenie motor that just hums, gave me some great tips, I will be bringing that Monday ad getting to it next week.
He said he had 1800 emails to get back to, maybe just a figure of speech. What a great guy. ;)
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
skou
Platinum Member
Posts: 1944
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:53 am
Location: Mesa (near Phoenix) Az

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by skou »

skou wrote:Lover, just so you know.
Skip IS the man! Don't sweat
it! He'll do you right.

He's NEVER let me down.

steve
QFT!
(Quoted for Truth!)

Skip IS the MAN!

Finally tried the tool rest handles on
Sterling's (used to be mine) lathe.
GREAT!

steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.

Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

skou wrote:
skou wrote:Lover, just so you know.
Skip IS the man! Don't sweat
it! He'll do you right.

He's NEVER let me down.

steve
QFT!
(Quoted for Truth!)

Skip IS the MAN!

Finally tried the tool rest handles on
Sterling's (used to be mine) lathe.
GREAT!

steve
Skou/steve, I have no doubt, on any of it, neph will love those handles, Skip answered his phone at 930pm
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

Update, Skip was out on vacation till mid Sept, he had getting a problem high end 6", it came down to cheap cast junk or a quality cast iron that he could only machine to 5.5" diam so we are going with that in cast iron.
He is so good on communicating and material supplies and options, price/cost finding, and even keeping price the same or updating me on an up charge for the orphan cast iron 5.5" pulley, just a joy to work with. I should have it later in the week or early next and put it on the dedicated ER DP.
He is a class act, plus ordered those Er Lathe thingies for nephew for an early Exmas stocking stuffer.
http://mkctools.com/10ertoolresthandles.htm
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by ERLover »

Now,JPG it is your time to shine, with an ER with a SG with a 6" HS pulley on low speed setting you and the Nuns figured a 30" gogged belt give or take a 1/2", but now it will be 5.5" on the head stock, what ya calculate?? 29.5" 28"??
It is on you!!!Getting it mid next week and belt store is local.
Yes I will post accolades on you or the defuncto on your equation. Put up or hush up ;)
BIG BAD BOB my bad cousin, does remember a few years ago when you need help/equation on a belt length for some thing, he still calls me for SS support since he cant post here, just lurks!!!! :eek:
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: ER low speeed RPMs

Post by JPG »

ERLover wrote:Now,JPG it is your time to shine, with an ER with a SG with a 6" HS pulley on low speed setting you and the Nuns figured a 30" gogged belt give or take a 1/2", but now it will be 5.5" on the head stock, what ya calculate?? 29.5" 28"??
It is on you!!!Getting it mid next week and belt store is local.
Yes I will post accolades on you or the defuncto on your equation. Put up or hush up ;)
BIG BAD BOB my bad cousin, does remember a few years ago when you need help/equation on a belt length for some thing, he still calls me for SS support since he cant post here, just lurks!!!! :eek:
29 ± .5
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Post Reply