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A Tail Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:09 pm
by DOWeaver
I know everyone on this forum seems to like pictures and " What is this"

Try to see how many differences you can find in these head stocks.. Warning picture intense

Re: A Tale Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:09 pm
by rpd
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Copied these photos over from part II so they are all in the same thread. :)

Re: A Tale Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:50 pm
by rpd
DOWeaver wrote:I know everyone on this forum seems to like pictures and " What is this"

Try to see how many differences you can find in these head stocks.. Warning picture intense
Thank you for posting, This is fun. :cool:

Headstock "A" (on the left)
- older of the two
- has the double wedge locks
- originally made as a Demonstrator (second nameplate on the back side) and I am guessing the serial # starts with 234--. I have #23430 ;)
- no hole behind the front name plate

Headstock "B" (on the right)
- newer
- has single wedge locks
- hole behind the front name plate.

Re: A Tale Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:25 pm
by jsburger
rpd wrote:
DOWeaver wrote:I know everyone on this forum seems to like pictures and " What is this"

Try to see how many differences you can find in these head stocks.. Warning picture intense
Thank you for posting, This is fun. :cool:

Headstock "A" (on the left)
- older of the two
- has the double wedge locks
- originally made as a Demonstrator (second nameplate on the back side) and I am guessing the serial # starts with 234--. I have #23430 ;)
- no hole behind the front name plate

Headstock "B" (on the right)
- newer
- has single wedge locks
- hole behind the front name plate.
I have one of those demo machines. It has a decal on the back side not an ID plate. My understanding is that these were Montgomery Wards demo machines not Magna. The SN of mine is 69356 which by Skip's list is a '52 machine.

I have not restored it yet because I want to have a decal made (me or someone else) and make sure it will work before I destroy the original.

Maybe what I could do is mask off the original, blast and paint the head stock and have the original decal in place. I will have to think about that.

Re: A Tail Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:57 am
by DOWeaver
So far
No hole in headstock
Older machine
Demo
I'll let this go till at least Monday
some differences are very small
Thanks for playing the weather here bad...DOW

Re: A Tail Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:56 am
by rpd
Just as a matter of interest, this is the back side of mine with the extra name plate.
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Note the extra hole that the power cord is routed through and the small bolt close to it to clamp the cord on the inside.

Re: A Tail Of Two Head stocks

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:26 am
by DOWeaver
How many did you find? working from left side
1. Older head-stock casting (edges more crisp)
2. Key-way in quill lock hole (noon)
3. Little tips on quill feed hole smaller (at noon and six )
4. No large hole behind front nameplate
5. Color ( blue gray ) Montgomery Wards Store sign colors 40s & 50s
6. The back name plate (Ser. No. Is blank)
7. Hole for quill lock ( goes through to back)
8. The M on the rear name plate in ( Magna & Model downside-up Ws )
9.