510 Model Bench

[babalaisi]

I do not know under what heading to ask this question so I decided to ask here. If it should have been asked somewhere else, my apologies.
I have a 510 and i have been working on bringing it back to life but have not been able to do much with it as I always need to roll it out of where it is stored and over humps and down a wooden ramp with a not so flat transition from ramp to floor. So, my question is, can i solve my issue by taking off the metal bench legs and build an wooed bench like with the 10Er and add taller casters to the bench for easy transport? or what else can be done. i have already changed the casters to the 3 inch and that is still not high enough as part of the metal legs will get stuck on the ramp or the floor and i will have to drag and totally scuff up the legs, ramp and or concrete floor.
Any solution(s) out there that I am not thinking of? This issue has not made me work on the saw in weeks and even months ...
Thanks Forum

[charlese]

Several fixes are possible.
Yes, you can remove the legs and set the machine on a table like a 10er.

Perhaps you can re-build the ramp

Perhaps you can cure the humps before the ramp

or, perhaps you can find a different storage space

[babalaisi]

Thanks for your answer. Rebuilding or curing the humps, etc is not feasible. I am in a very small warehouse that I share with someone and that is just the way this pace comes and I cannot make those changes so i will have to make changes to my stuff to make life easy.
So, the 10Er idea is good but then I still have to find a way to rig a caster system that is higher than 3 inches and then be able to make it retractable. Looked into retractable casters but they also only have a very short clearance off the floor.
Another idea that I have bet cant figure our the best way to do it is to just make a flat dolly with high enough casters and just use that to move it in and out but then i will still have the limitation of getting the casters to not move at all while using the saw.


Sorry for the long explanations

[everettdavis]

You may be able to outfit a motorcycle jack ($95) with added 8 inch pneumatic tires ($35 + some fabricaton) and lift from the bench tubes if you have a wide enough space.

Works wonders moving shopsmith's over grass and rough ground. Just center the headstock, and bungee cord it to the lift.

We fabricated some 2 x 4's with cut outs for the bench tubes we cut with a 2" hole saw.

Sit it down where you want to use it and the casters are not a issue.

Everett

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[BuckeyeDennis]

It sounds like adding some fixed outboard casters, in addition to the regular retractable casters, might solve your problem. Then when you hit a dip, instead of dragging the metal leg, the load will just transfer to the outboard casters, and you can keep rolling.

The idea is to mount the outboard casters so that when the machine is lowered onto its legs, they are just clear of a flat floor. Check out this post to see the general idea. In your case, I suspect that fixed casters would work better than swivel casters. Just one on each end, in the middle of the leg, might do the trick (and be much easier to mount).

[babalaisi]

Hello everettedavis, that will not work because of the way the ramp and its incline is and also the 2 sharp corners that I have to go thru to even get to the ramp.
BuckeyeDennis, your post idea will also not quite work due to the above and other things. Great ideas though, just a unique situation here.

[BuckeyeDennis]

Hello everettedavis, that will not work because of the way the ramp and its incline is and also the 2 sharp corners that I have to go thru to even get to the ramp.
BuckeyeDennis, your post idea will also not quite work due to the above and other things. Great ideas though, just a unique situation here.

How much room do you have overhead? I installed one of the lifts below in my garage, and it's pretty slick. I use mine to store a couple of stand-up paddleboards, but the load rating is sufficient for a Shopsmith. You can crank it up or down in less than a minute with a drill -- I keep an old cordless drill hanging on a nearby wall just for that.

For a Shopsmith, I'd probably lose the wire platform in favor of a couple 2x4's clamped across the way tubes. If the budget is tight, a manual rope & pulley setup would accomplish the same thing at a fraction of the cost.

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You can buy the Racor lift at Amazon, Home Depot, etc.

[everettdavis]

Not cheap but a FM60 Manual Furniture Mover may give you an idea.

Everett

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[Hobbyman2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9-4_MMM2k

Some thing like this would work ?

[br549]

Some interesting ideas and suggestions thus far, but maybe a simplier approach would work. I had a similar problem moving my Shopsmith with the standard 2" casters. I needed more ground clearance, so went with 3" casters without raising the brackets. Here's what I did:

https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... 4-s10.html

In your case, maybe 4" or larger casters could be an answer (providing they clear everything to roll and swivel). Brackets might could be returned to their original position, if you've already raised them, for more clearance.

When you want to lower the Shopsmith for working, have some blocks of wood of the correct thickness ready and lower legs onto them. I made some pieces that include "stops" to ensure blocks are positioned correctly before lowering.

One possible drawback is that the overall working height of the machine is going to be raised by whatever thickness blocks you need, so depending on how much that is and your height, it may be too high to be comfortable.