Fence Issues

[babalaisi]

Hello Forum. I continue to work hard on tuning up and setting up my SS. Not able to work on it everyday because of work but have not been able to build anything since I bought it almost a year ago as I am have not been able to get thing true. Now I have a 510 fence issue.
*** I used a dial indicator to align the fence to the miter slot and while doing it, noticed that the dial moves in the backward direction along the fence. The in-feed and out-feed sides are aligned but now when I rip, I end up with the middle either more or less than the in-feed and out-feed . Any thoughts on correcting this? I have check 2 fences and both have the same issue here and there.
*** Also, using a square to set the table to 90 degrees to the blade is good but when I adjust the screw that allows me to be able to return to that setting and then try it, it is always off.

What else do I need to do or doing incorrectly? Thanks Forum

Using a 510 Series with Diablo Saw and a 5/8 Arbor

[wa2crk]

The table slots should be adjusted so that they are parallel to the sawblade. This should be done first. I assume that the 90 deg that you are trying to set is the blade to table 90 deg. Using a square is good but after setting the angle you should loosen the lock handle and run the table through it's range and lock it at 90 and check it again. I call this exercising the stop. If this does not solve the problem then we will have to go further and see if there are broken or cracked parts in the trunnion system that may be causing the inconsistencies.
Bill V

[JPG]

Hello Forum. I continue to work hard on tuning up and setting up my SS. Not able to work on it everyday because of work but have not been able to build anything since I bought it almost a year ago as I am have not been able to get thing true. Now I have a 510 fence issue.
*** I used a dial indicator to align the fence to the miter slot and while doing it, noticed that the dial moves in the backward direction along the fence. The in-feed and out-feed sides are aligned but now when I rip, I end up with the middle either more or less than the in-feed and out-feed . Any thoughts on correcting this? I have check 2 fences and both have the same issue here and there.How much 'backward'/'middle variation'?
*** Also, using a square to set the table to 90 degrees to the blade is good but when I adjust the screw that allows me to be able to return to that setting and then try it, it is always off. Which screw? **


What else do I need to do or doing incorrectly? Thanks Forum

Using a 510 Series with Diablo Saw and a 5/8 Arbor

** Are you referring to setting the top surface of the table to be 90° to the face of the blade?


I think we need to understand how much 'deviation' you consider to be 'off'.

One final question - Are ALL locks(headstock, carriage, tilt, quill, table height) locked when making the adjustments? They need to be except those being adjusted.

[babalaisi]

Thanks for the reply wa2crk. The Table was first adjusted parallel to the miter slots using a dial indicator setup. One of the issues I am having as stated earlier is that trying to align the fence to the slots is not working correctly as the dial moves quite a bit along the length of the fence and I did the best I can and then ripped with it and the cut is good on both ends but not towards the center and a little after. Also, this is the second fence I have tried.
I sometimes see people use a face board on their fence. Any thoughts on whether this will correct things for me.

[babalaisi]

Hello Forum. I continue to work hard on tuning up and setting up my SS. Not able to work on it everyday because of work but have not been able to build anything since I bought it almost a year ago as I am have not been able to get thing true. Now I have a 510 fence issue.
*** I used a dial indicator to align the fence to the miter slot and while doing it, noticed that the dial moves in the backward direction along the fence. The in-feed and out-feed sides are aligned but now when I rip, I end up with the middle either more or less than the in-feed and out-feed . Any thoughts on correcting this? I have check 2 fences and both have the same issue here and there.How much 'backward'/'middle variation'?
*** Also, using a square to set the table to 90 degrees to the blade is good but when I adjust the screw that allows me to be able to return to that setting and then try it, it is always off. Which screw? **


What else do I need to do or doing incorrectly? Thanks Forum

Using a 510 Series with Diablo Saw and a 5/8 Arbor

** Are you referring to setting the top surface of the table to be 90° to the face of the blade?


I think we need to understand how much 'deviation' you consider to be 'off'.

One final question - Are ALL locks(headstock, carriage, tilt, quill, table height) locked when making the adjustments? They need to be except those being adjusted.

Yes I am talking about the table surface to 90 in reference to the blade .
Enough deviation for me to not have a "perfect" cut either ripping or crosscutting.
And Yes, all the locks are on except the table tilt lock.

[dusty]

We are discussing more than one issue here:

"align the fence to the slots is not working correctly as the dial moves quite a bit along the length of the fence" (fence parallel to blade or miter slots parallel to blade)

"talking about the table surface to 90 in reference to the blade" (table tilt??)

"using a square to set the table to 90 degrees to the blade is good but when I adjust the screw that allows me to be able to return to that setting and then try it, it is always off" (table tilt stops)

Are you winging it or do you have a copy of the alignment procedure that you follow?????

[babalaisi]

Not winging it Dusty. Following steps that I have seen others use . Using dial indicators to get more accurate alignment. Trying to get the fence parallel to the miter since I already aligned the miter parallel to the blade.

[babalaisi]

Anyone know whether the fence aluminum extrusion is actually perfectly straight or do I have to incorporate a a "straight" board against the face of the fence to get a better or perfect result on a 510? Also, with the tilt stop for the horizontal level, how much in contact with the pin does the screw have to be? Slightly touching or firmly snug against the pin that let you return to the level?
Thanks

[Hobbyman2]

Are you suggesting there could be a bow in the fence?
A straight edge will show any deformities .
If your stock isnt perfectly straight and flat you will have a issue with your cut being off.
I often use a piece of wood on the fence so I can bury the dado blades under the fence for cutting rabbits .

[Hobbyman2]

how much in contact with the pin does the screw have to be? Slightly touching or firmly snug against the pin that let you return to the level?

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You have to check it with a square and then you will have it.