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Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:03 am
by redleg
I started making some Christmas ornaments the first week of December just prior to the Shopsmith lathe duplicator ad. So off and on over the last two weeks I made a set of 12: 6 walnut, 3 red cedar, and 3 maple for son and family in Alaska. My wife put them in the mail Friday before I got pictures (I know it didn't happen). Here are some pictures from along the way and one I made yesterday.
![IMG_0140.JPG](./download/file.php?id=43959&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
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![The bottom template was used to turn the outside of the ornaments.](./download/file.php?id=43960&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- The bottom template was used to turn the outside of the ornaments.
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![Stock after turning inside, rotating the four sections 180 degrees, gluing back together and removing excess stock.](./download/file.php?id=43961&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- Stock after turning inside, rotating the four sections 180 degrees, gluing back together and removing excess stock.
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![Removing those knuckle beater corners in subsequent turnings.](./download/file.php?id=43962&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- Removing those knuckle beater corners in subsequent turnings.
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![The first two were hand turned to get a template I liked. The last one I turned yesterday and is like the 12 sent.](./download/file.php?id=43963&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- The first two were hand turned to get a template I liked. The last one I turned yesterday and is like the 12 sent.
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I turned most of them with the duplicator on the Power Pro. I have the same issue as with the bandsaw of the fluctuation in speed making noise.
I moved the duplicator to the 520 and it worked much better.
I tried doing the turning from both 1 1/2"x1 1/2"x 7 1/8" stock and four pieces of 3/4"x7 1/8" stock glued together. The 1 1/2" stock has to be cut in quarters on the bandsaw after the inside turning. The four quarters method allows you to use up smaller stock and scrap.
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:02 pm
by wa2crk
Hi Redleg
I have not tried inside out turning yet but your post wants to make me try it. They look really cool. Difficult??
Bill V
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:50 am
by redleg
Good morning Bill, I thought actually turning an inside out ornament without the duplicator was fairly easy after the first one. I use a spot of hot glue on the end of each quarter and masking tape for the inside turning. I use polyurethane to coat the inside of the turning while it is still on the lathe.
Here's one of the many videos I watched before starting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Tws4X4moI
If you're going to do several then the setup time for the duplicator may be worth it. The cutter tips for the duplicator take off so little at a time that you need to get rid of as much stock as possible on the bandsaw.
I bought a new carbide round cutter in one of the Shopsmith sales but it didn't seem to be sharp enough. I had made a round one from a bolt when I did some chess pieces a couple of years ago and that had cut much better. However the shop mice must have got away with it.
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:31 am
by redleg
redleg wrote: I use a spot of hot glue on the end of each quarter and masking tape for the inside turning.
Edit: I'm going to have to retract a recommendation to use hot glue. I glued up another 12 ornaments and had a real hard time getting them apart. I had to split them again with the bandsaw.
I added a generic hot glue stick from Big Lots and it worked to good especially on the red cedar. So back to a spot of Titebond, tape and leave over night.
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:23 pm
by redleg
Whenever I make something new to me it seems to get old before I'm finished. I have made 30 of the ornaments already so it's not new anymore. I have six more to go sometime soon.
![Just hanging around](./download/file.php?id=44039&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- Just hanging around
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I sharpened the round carbide cutter and what a difference.
![And I use to worry about a little dust from the Shopsmith table saw](./download/file.php?id=44040&sid=9da06637fc7c7aa106e22aa1a130de54)
- And I use to worry about a little dust from the Shopsmith table saw
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Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:44 pm
by algale
Those look amazing!
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:15 pm
by BuckeyeDennis
Those are beautiful ornaments ... but 36 of them?
![EEK! :eek:](./images/smilies/eek.gif)
Santa needs some elves!
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:53 am
by redleg
Thanks Algale, I kind of like the cedar best.
Thanks, Buckeye.
Or fewer grandelves? Even Mrs. Santa disappears when the Shopsmith starts.
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:35 pm
by Lodgepole
They look great!! How did you come up your design?
Re: Lathe Duplicator
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:25 am
by redleg
I googled inside out Christmas tree ornament for ideas, put a piece of wood on the lathe and tried a couple turnings until I found a design pleasing to my eye.