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Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:11 pm
by WileyCoyote
I finished cleaning up my conical disc this morning to put a finer sanding disc on it and found the actual instructions still inside the box it came in. I decided what the heck and read them again and found a note that I don't remember reading before about saving the paper backing off the sanding disc so you can use it later when you decide to switch grits, and reapply it to the used disc. Has this ever happened to anyone where you have been able to save a used sanding disc? Mine didn't fair so well coming off.
BTW, the sanding discs are about 5 years old and the adhesive seemed to be as good as new.
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:56 pm
by wa2crk
I was never able to salvage any PSA sandpaper from any sanding discs that I tried to remove it from. That's why switched to Velcro systems.
Bill V
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:20 pm
by WileyCoyote
Bill,
Do you have a link to a company that makes the Velcro system that fits the conical disc?
Thanks,
Wiley
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:58 pm
by chapmanruss
Wiley,
I remember that instruction also. If you want the sandpaper to come off easier try heating it a little with a Blow Dryer or Heat Gun. It will "soften" the adhesive. You may be able to save it that way. Hopefully most of the adhesive will remain on the paper not the disk.
The other option is to get more conical sanding disks, one for each grit you wish to use. I still want to get one more.
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:16 pm
by thunderbirdbat
WileyCoyote wrote:Bill,
Do you have a link to a company that makes the Velcro system that fits the conical disc?
Thanks,
Wiley
Can you cut a PSA to HL conversion flat sheet or disk to fit? I know that a couple of sandpaper companies online sell conversion sheets/disks. I do not have a conical disk but I have heard that the sandpaper can be cut to fit from a flat piece so maybe the conversion piece needed could be as well.
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:41 pm
by reible
I have a more then a few issues with the reuse of sanding disks. My at the time quite new 520 table sports one reason, yes it came loose and scratched up the side before I had time to turn it off.....
I have not had decent luck reusing any of the stick on papers be it shopsmith or not. It is not getting it off that is the issue, it is getting it to re-stick well enough.
I have a collection of the flat disks with different grits and types of papers that I use and like wise I have 2 conical disks, one for each grit that I use. When the paper is worn out it comes off and NEW paper is added.
I too have the Velcro system for the flat disks and it has it uses but you get a softer edge, good when you want it but no so other times. You can also damage them if you feed to hard and of course they are not for sharpening. I wouldn't even think about Velcro for the conical, I don't see that working well at all due to how it is used and I'm not sure if you were to get that set up what you would do for paper??
My solution to all of this was to spend the money and get plenty of disks and besides it much faster to change disks then it is to change paper.
Ed
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:01 pm
by jsburger
reible wrote:I have a more then a few issues with the reuse of sanding disks. My at the time quite new 520 table sports one reason, yes it came loose and scratched up the side before I had time to turn it off.....
I have not had decent luck reusing any of the stick on papers be it shopsmith or not. It is not getting it off that is the issue, it is getting it to re-stick well enough.
I have a collection of the flat disks with different grits and types of papers that I use and like wise I have 2 conical disks, one for each grit that I use. When the paper is worn out it comes off and NEW paper is added.
I too have the Velcro system for the flat disks and it has it uses but you get a softer edge, good when you want it but no so other times. You can also damage them if you feed to hard and of course they are not for sharpening. I wouldn't even think about Velcro for the conical, I don't see that working well at all due to how it is used and I'm not sure if you were to get that set up what you would do for paper??
My solution to all of this was to spend the money and get plenty of disks and besides it much faster to change disks then it is to change paper.
Ed
I totally agree Ed. I have had no desire to buy the Velcro system. I have 4 flat disks and 2 conical. One of the conicals has the paper for sharpening planer and jointer blades with the SS jig.
The disk holder was made when I only had 3 flat disks and one conical. Not a problem with the 4 flat disks since one stays on my shorty almost all of the time. I put a piece of painters tape on the back of the disks with the grit on it.
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:23 pm
by wa2crk
http://www.supergrit.com/products/produ ... eeve-cloth
Try the above link. It is not a user friendly site but the 12"conversion disk should be available.
Bill V
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:33 pm
by chapmanruss
I had said
Wiley,
I remember that instruction also. If you want the sandpaper to come off easier try heating it a little with a Blow Dryer or Heat Gun. It will "soften" the adhesive. You may be able to save it that way. Hopefully most of the adhesive will remain on the paper not the disk.
I have not tried to do it and as I said "you
MAY be able to save it that way." Ed has an excellent point and I would not want to see the paper come off one of my disks, flying through the shop and scratching whatever was in it's path. I have a lot of flat sanding disks available so I do not need to change paper only replace it. Like John I mark on the back of the disk with what grit is on it.
Now does anybody know where to get 10" conical sanding paper for the old Mark VII 10" dual sided sanding disk?
Re: Conical Disc Sander
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:49 pm
by jsburger
chapmanruss wrote:I had said
Wiley,
I remember that instruction also. If you want the sandpaper to come off easier try heating it a little with a Blow Dryer or Heat Gun. It will "soften" the adhesive. You may be able to save it that way. Hopefully most of the adhesive will remain on the paper not the disk.
I have not tried to do it and as I said "you
MAY be able to save it that way." Ed has an excellent point and I would not want to see the paper come off one of my disks, flying through the shop and scratching whatever was in it's path. I have a lot of flat sanding disks available so I do not need to change paper only replace it. Like John I mark on the back of the disk with what grit is on it.
Now does anybody know where to get 10" conical sanding paper for the old Mark VII 10" dual sided sanding disk?
B. Snyder Abrasives
http://barbkat.com/sanding_discs
Oops, you said
Conical. They have 10" disks that should make it easy to cut your own.