My brother found this free table saw and brought it home. I was supprised to see it was a
shopsmith. I knew they were the top of the line but I'm having trouble locating info on it. It's a model 10er and the serial No.(this is where I have trouble) is 82727. Everything I find has a 6 digit number and this one only has 5. What do I do.
Thanks Ron
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Ron, Welcome to the site. I would suggest you take some time to get familiar with the different sections here. There is a mountain of information here on the 10ER and a quick search will turn up more results than you can read in a year. The best thing to do is go to the Maintenance and Repair section and start with the stickies at the top of the page. Others will chime in shortly with more direct information.
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Welcome aboard Ron.kickr50 wrote:My brother found this free table saw and brought it home. I was surprised to see it was a
Shopsmith. I knew they were the top of the line but I'm having trouble locating info on it. It's a model 10er and the serial No.(this is where I have trouble) is 82727. Everything I find has a 6 digit number and this one only has 5. What do I do.
Thanks Ron
The 10E/ER models predated the Mark V's and had their own series of serial numbers. Yours was made, approximately, late 1952 - early 1953.
There is actually a lot of documentation available on line.
A good place to begin is this link, in the first post click on the red " My Google Drive", and then on the folder "10E & 10ER MAGNA"
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... 16113.html
These files have been collected and restored by member Everett Davis. To start you will want "MAGNA 10ER Restored Owners Guide" , and "MAGNA – SHOPSMITH PRELIMINARY MANUAL 1947" which contains a lot of additional information that Everett added.
And also get the file in the folder "PTWFE 10ER 1953" which explains in detail how to use your 10ER
And another source of files for accessories is found at this link
http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/de ... =338&tab=3
Don't hesitate to ask any questions. and we would love to see pictures of your prize.
Posting pictures can be a bit tricky, this link will help you with that. https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/comm ... 19246.html
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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kickr50 welcome! A prize you have indeed! Great machines, bullet proof, and very functional. I have three and use them daily. Use the links provided above by RPD and you can get squared away.
Be warned! These things are addictive!
Be warned! These things are addictive!
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Ron,
Welcome to the wonderful World of Shopsmiths. Look at the links RPD supplied and you will be well on your way to understanding the Shopsmith Tool.
The Shopsmith Model 10E followed by the Model 10ER was the original 5 in 1 tool. A lot of changes occurred to the Shopsmith during the years the Model 10's were made from late 1947 through 1953. Yours should have the 7th version of the Headstock and the 2nd versions of the Table, Trunnion, Base & Headrest to name a few.
As for the serial number for the Model 10's they started at 1001 with the Model 10E. Later after a second plant started production for the Eastern half of the US serial numbers were preceded by the prefix E, ER or R. The prefix was later dropped which is why yours does not have a prefix in the S/N. This is not to be confused with the Model 10E which changed later to the Model 10ER. You are partly correct about the 6 digit serial numbers but those belonged to the Mark 5 machine introduced in March 1954 and continued until the Mark 5 went out of production in 1964. When Shopsmith Inc. formed in 1972 to bring back the Mark 5 into production, which occurred in March of 1973, the serial numbers started with SS-1001 and continued into 6 digit numbers with the SS prefix for the original Mark V until December of 1987 when Shopsmith Inc. changed the serial numbers to date codes on the different Mark V models. Mark 5 changed to Mark V on the machines themselves in early 1980, although Mark V had been used earlier by Shopsmith Inc. on printed materials and advertising.
Welcome to the wonderful World of Shopsmiths. Look at the links RPD supplied and you will be well on your way to understanding the Shopsmith Tool.
The Shopsmith Model 10E followed by the Model 10ER was the original 5 in 1 tool. A lot of changes occurred to the Shopsmith during the years the Model 10's were made from late 1947 through 1953. Yours should have the 7th version of the Headstock and the 2nd versions of the Table, Trunnion, Base & Headrest to name a few.
As for the serial number for the Model 10's they started at 1001 with the Model 10E. Later after a second plant started production for the Eastern half of the US serial numbers were preceded by the prefix E, ER or R. The prefix was later dropped which is why yours does not have a prefix in the S/N. This is not to be confused with the Model 10E which changed later to the Model 10ER. You are partly correct about the 6 digit serial numbers but those belonged to the Mark 5 machine introduced in March 1954 and continued until the Mark 5 went out of production in 1964. When Shopsmith Inc. formed in 1972 to bring back the Mark 5 into production, which occurred in March of 1973, the serial numbers started with SS-1001 and continued into 6 digit numbers with the SS prefix for the original Mark V until December of 1987 when Shopsmith Inc. changed the serial numbers to date codes on the different Mark V models. Mark 5 changed to Mark V on the machines themselves in early 1980, although Mark V had been used earlier by Shopsmith Inc. on printed materials and advertising.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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Thank you all for the answers. I have been to my google but really didn't know what I was looking for. Thanks to you I have a better idea, I can go back and load up my laptop with information then I can finish cleaning it all up. I think I'm going to need some bearings but after setting for so long I would need some also.To bad the old mans son didn't share his interest in wood working.
Thanks again Ron
Thanks again Ron
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The Model 10's are between 66 and almost 72 years old now. It is not surprising it could need a new set of bearings. I have restored 19 Model 10E's and 10ER's plus two more being restored. All but one has needed new bearings. The one that didn't need new bearings had them already replaced in it's more recent past. I also replace the power cords and switch since the cords are generally brittle, cracking and not grounded - not very safe. So they get a new grounded power cord. Most of the belts are old and cracking too. There is a lot of good information here on the Forum about bearings, cleaning and rust removal plus much more. Just search for threads on what topic you are seeking or ask questions. As you have already found out you will get a lot of good responses with help.
As you are gathering information on the Shopsmith Model 10ER add the PDF below to your collection. It is an addendum I made for the Owner's Manual about waxing parts instead of oiling them for lubrication.
Good luck on your restoration journey and keep us posted. We like seeing pictures of Shopsmiths both before and after restoration. If you are interested below is a link to one of my recent restorations and the oldest Model 10E I have restored.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... 21347.html
As you are gathering information on the Shopsmith Model 10ER add the PDF below to your collection. It is an addendum I made for the Owner's Manual about waxing parts instead of oiling them for lubrication.
Good luck on your restoration journey and keep us posted. We like seeing pictures of Shopsmiths both before and after restoration. If you are interested below is a link to one of my recent restorations and the oldest Model 10E I have restored.
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... 21347.html
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.