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stew wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:23 pm Hey John any chance on getting a picture of your Shark Guard set up on the Shopsmith? Does it cause any problems if you move the SS or do you always keep your SS in the same spot. My shop is small so I am always moving mine.
Thanks!

Here are some better pictures of the SS Shark Guard. As I said this guard was made in 2007 and was one of the first SS model he sold. Material and workmanship have much improved over the years. The last picture is the Shark Guard on my PM2000 table saw. It was bought somewhere around 2012 or 13. There is a big difference in the material and workmanship. I have not looked lately but I am sure there have been more changes in the last 7 or 8 years.

That dust collection system appears to be all that anyone could ask for. I see not a single sign of saw dust in that shop. Either that or you have one of the best janitors available.

dusty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:14 pm That dust collection system appears to be all that anyone could ask for. I see not a single sign of saw dust in that shop. Either that or you have one of the best janitors available.

A little bit of both. However, the Shark Guards are amazing. They get 98% of the above table dust.

What they should offer is a 0.5 micron pleated canister filter that mounts on top. That would vastly improve the performance of the machine. The argument about "dust caking on the inside of the bag is a good thing as it reduces the size of particulates emitted" may be kind-of-sort-of-technically true but it ignores the biggest problem in DC collection - when the dust bag clogs, the motor has to work harder to push the air through the bag, and CFM will drop as a result.
Canisters offer 8x more square area than any bag AND better filtration. Less wear on the motor, better CFM.

So, it looks like the DC-3300 has been removed from the website and the DC-6000 dust collector is now live on the website for ordering if interested. Wondering if the motor is unchanged from the DC-3300. It is listed at only 8.0A, which if it is a 1.5HP motor is a bit low possibly indicating the impeller and housing are limiting full airflow. Didn't the DC-3300 motor draw around 8.0A at steady state?

https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... ection.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=556700

RFGuy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:39 pm So, it looks like the DC-3300 has been removed from the website and the DC-6000 dust collector is now live on the website for ordering if interested. Wondering if the motor is unchanged from the DC-3300. It is listed at only 8.0A, which if it is a 1.5HP motor is a bit low possibly indicating the impeller and housing are limiting full airflow. Didn't the DC-3300 motor draw around 8.0A at steady state?

https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... ection.htm
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=556700

I just tested my DC-3300 at 9.5 A steady state with all three holes open. This dropped to ~8.5A with one hose and two holes closed off. Mine has the 42" filter. The external label does say 8.0 Amps. I don't recall ever seeing the data plate on the motor itself.

- David

DLB wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:52 pm I just tested my DC-3300 at 9.5 A steady state with all three holes open. This dropped to ~8.5A with one hose and two holes closed off. Mine has the 42" filter. The external label does say 8.0 Amps. I don't recall ever seeing the data plate on the motor itself.

- David

Thanks David. Yeah, that sounds familiar to what I thought I remembered when I measured my DC-3300. So, the DC-3300 is supposed to have a 0.5HP motor and the new DC-6000 is supposed to have a 1.5HP motor. Wondering how that can be if the new one draws the same current as the old one. I have been guessing that Shopsmith re-designed the impeller to get the airflow up to 600CFM rather than actually beefing up the motor. Just a working theory since there isn't much info to go on until someone purchases one and opens it up...

I ordered the DC-6000 today. I will provide feedback, pics and answer questions when it arrives sometime in January.

Jack

I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from the new on-line advertising. I don't recall the 8 Amps being mentioned in the print ad and this conflicts with what I was expecting. If accurate, 8 Amps suggests to me that the 1-1/2 HP assertion is something other than continuous HP, probably Peak HP, and therefore HP comparisons with the DC-3300 are apples to oranges. Equally important to me personally, I don't see any mention of an upgrade kit. I like the footprint and portability of the DC-3300, so I would presumably like this unit better than what I have.

- David

DLB wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:43 am I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from the new on-line advertising. I don't recall the 8 Amps being mentioned in the print ad and this conflicts with what I was expecting. If accurate, 8 Amps suggests to me that the 1-1/2 HP assertion is something other than continuous HP, probably Peak HP, and therefore HP comparisons with the DC-3300 are apples to oranges. Equally important to me personally, I don't see any mention of an upgrade kit. I like the footprint and portability of the DC-3300, so I would presumably like this unit better than what I have.

- David

Yeah, I agree. I checked online but there isn't a parts diagram or parts list yet for the DC-6000. I was hoping to compare from it, but we'll have to wait for Jack to get his and report back on it. I am just curious what changes Shopsmith made to the DC-6000. An upgrade kit, if ever offered, might be nice...