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Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:19 am
by tfrayne
Yes, this looks to be the same one in as in the link you provided. Thanks!

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:58 am
by chapmanruss
Yours is the same one I have. Do note the rating for the switch. Give it a try with the Dust Collector and see if you like it.

Shopsmith also sells a wireless remote On/Off Switch that I haven't tried since I already have the other one.

https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... switch.htm

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:11 pm
by edma194
It's a reasonable means of controlling a dust collector. I have a press and release type foot pedal that I could use with a scroll saw, it came with an old polishing machine. The switch on/switch off type you have has fewer practical uses on the Shopsmith itself. I would say in general that you shouldn't use a foot pedal unless you are seated because when your hands are too busy to flip a switch you shouldn't be left balancing on one foot in front of a dangerous machine.

As for a foot operated stop switch, just make sure you can't step on it by accident causing the need to use it.

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:16 pm
by Hobbyman2
Just tossing this out there , wouldnt it work on a power station with the jig saw / band saw or sanding disc ?

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:20 pm
by SteveMaryland
Above, I suggested use of an emergency stop button. Let me clarify this: such e-stop buttons are for OFF only. NOT like an on/off foot switch. The operator would still turn the headstock ON and OFF with the toggle switch, but if/when the e-stop button is hit, it would OVERRIDE the toggle switch and turn the machine OFF. And keep it OFF until reset. The e-stop button could not turn the machine back ON. That is how they work on industrial machines.

More wiring required, but I think it would be a significant safety device to incorporate. Or at least they could spec and schematic such a device so we could add it ourselves.

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:45 pm
by jsburger
I used to use the SS momentary foot switch on my MK V all the time when making repeated cuts or sneaking up on cuts for things like picture frames. For precise fitting cuts I always cut long and then sneak up on the fit. Cut, fit, cut, fit, etc.. The momentary foot switch is great so you don't leave the saw running between cuts while checking the fit.

I only connected it when needed and always turned off the head stock switch when leaving the machine for a long time with the foot switch connected.

Electrically it works fine. However, when I got my Power Pro it is no longer useful. :( It now is used with the conventional head stock shorty. The shorty is mostly used as a sanding station. We also have a momentary foot switch on my wife's SS stand alone scroll saw. I can't imagine using a scroll saw without a foot switch.

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:08 pm
by edma194
jsburger wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:45 pm We also have a momentary foot switch on my wife's SS stand alone scroll saw. I can't imagine using a scroll saw without a foot switch.
That's why I refurbed the one I had sitting on the shelf: viewtopic.php?p=281260#p281260

Ancient, needed cleaning, patching, and an upgrade to 3 prong plug, but it also provides variable speed for the proper motors. The scroll saw is made with simple voltage adjusted speed so with it set on the max I can get a little control from the pedal. It's more like high, medium, and low even though it has more contacts on the pedal but so far I've only used it as a simple hold down switch. I suppose an experience scroll sawyer could make good use of foot pedal controlled variable speed.

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:10 pm
by reible
I have an normal off step on version from another company. I have used it for scroll saw work up until the powerpro it was great. I also use it for router operations and now it is simi-permanent attached to my OPR, but not in normal operation.

Some operations lend themselves to having this function but many more do not. It has a dangerous potential to accidentally turn on a machine when you are not expecting it so if you use it be very very cautious.

Ed

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:46 pm
by tfrayne
I probably won’t use the foot pedal for the dust collector either. However, a remote sounds like a great idea. I did mount one for an air mover I put high on a shelf to allow air movement in the shop. I mounted the fob on the wall next to the light switch and it works fine. I think I got it for about $20 at Lowes or HD.

For dust collection I can “mount” it on the headstock. I’ve seen that before on some YT videos. That seems easier to me and avoids a cord on the floor of the shop.

Re: Foot activated ON/OFF switch - Good idea or safety hazard?

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:05 pm
by chapmanruss
That would be my reasoning for going to a remote switch for the Dust Collection as opposed to using the Foot Switch I already have. Maybe one of these days I'll "switch". :D