Tendon Jig + Dial Caliper

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

myoldgarage
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:02 pm

Tendon Jig + Dial Caliper

Post by myoldgarage »

In case you want to aggravate yourself with a dial-caliper in making sure your table is square to the blade.

Image

Image
Bradley Miller
Blue Springs, MO - LumberJocks / MyOldGarage
Grandpa's old SS Model 500 - (1985)
New(er) - SS Model 510 / Ringmaster / Lots of goodies
User avatar
Ed in Tampa
Platinum Member
Posts: 5834
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:45 am
Location: North Tampa Bay area Florida

Post by Ed in Tampa »

I think it was Dusty that mentioned using the tendoning jig plate as a mounting base for dial indicator and since then I have been having a field day making myself crazy.

Now you offer yet another method. I tweak and nudge and bump seeking perfection and I think all I do is approach insanity as every method produces yet another goal that reason says is simply not needed. Thanks :D

I think I return to pondering my navel. :eek:
Ed in Tampa
Stay out of trouble!
Gene Howe
Platinum Member
Posts: 3219
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:52 pm
Location: Snowflake, AZ

Post by Gene Howe »

Bradley,
Wow! I've been scratching my head for weeks trying to come up with a way to mount the dial. You don't want to know all the configurations I had imagined. This is great!
Thanks so much. :D :D
Gene

'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton
myoldgarage
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:02 pm

Mounting

Post by myoldgarage »

Actually I was going to use a piece of aluminum angle and drill it out, but I needed to cut it, drill it, and dress it with the grinder. I grabbed that block of wood and made this quick-n-dirty version. I was originally going to use a piece of 3/4 inch oak that fits in the weird miter groove. (Ok -- is anything "standard" ? ) I sat for a long time looking at the miter gauge toogle clamp, but again, this popped in my head so I went with it. After fiddling for about 15 minutes, I resorted to a square anyway. :p
Bradley Miller
Blue Springs, MO - LumberJocks / MyOldGarage
Grandpa's old SS Model 500 - (1985)
New(er) - SS Model 510 / Ringmaster / Lots of goodies
Gene Howe
Platinum Member
Posts: 3219
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:52 pm
Location: Snowflake, AZ

Post by Gene Howe »

myoldgarage wrote: After fiddling for about 15 minutes, I resorted to a square anyway. :p

Aaargh!!!:eek:
Don't tell me that.
Gene

'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21481
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Post by dusty »

Ed in Tampa wrote:I think it was Dusty that mentioned using the tendoning jig plate as a mounting base for dial indicator and since then I have been having a field day making myself crazy.

Now you offer yet another method. I tweak and nudge and bump seeking perfection and I think all I do is approach insanity as every method produces yet another goal that reason says is simply not needed. Thanks :D

I think I return to pondering my navel. :eek:

Yes, I toyed with the idea of using the base of the Tenon Master as the base for the dial gauge and IT WORKED quite well. But, having said that it worked, I don't use it now. What that base did for the dial gauge readings was provide a stable base upon which to mount the dial gauge. It is heavy enough that it doesn't wobble.

Almost any method of mounting will work. The deviations in readings are a direct result of any unwanted movement in the measuring mechanism. Eliminate that movement (along with the slop in the miter track) and you have very, very accurate readings.

Now we come to the topic of major discussion. Just how accurate do these adjustments need to be. There is no one answer to that question.

It hasn't been all that long ago that I was perfectly satisfied with setups accurate to 1/32" (.03125").

I have found that the table and fence related setups can all be done using the dial indicator to +- .005". That is now my general objective for setups.

Now, does that mean that my cuts are all that accurate. NO, by no means. But it does mean that the inaccuracies that do persist are not the inevitable result of a poorly aligned table or fence.

I now use the Dial Gauge, MiterSet and Wixey quit frequently. They all perform as advertised by their manufacturers. :)

The poor quality work that I now produce can be traced to some factor :oother than bad setups.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
User avatar
a1gutterman
Platinum Member
Posts: 3653
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:45 am
Location: "close to" Seattle

Post by a1gutterman »

dusty wrote:...The poor quality work that I now produce can be traced to some factor :oother than bad setups.
That must mean that you now can only blame...the materials: Yes! That's it! There must be something wrong with the materials! ;)
Tim

Buying US made products will help keep YOUR job or retirement funds safer.
calver
Gold Member
Posts: 61
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:55 pm
Location: Tempe, Arizona

Post by calver »

Have any of you viewed or used the ts aligner jr. by Edward J. Bennett
http://www.ts-aligner.com.
It looks stable.

Lot of good info regarding alignment

Dave C.
shydragon
Gold Member
Posts: 417
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:17 pm

Post by shydragon »

Wow, those are some extreme prices for the ts-aligner. I was looking at this for setting the jointer. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002SA98I/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A2U9E50E3XJZ3F&v=glance

And something along this line for the TS. http://www.woodcraft.com/product.aspx?ProductID=149019&FamilyID=21008
Pat

Oregon

1992 SS 510, 11" Bandsaw on power station, 4" jointer, Pro Planer, Incra Miter 2000, Incra Ultimate Fence Router Pkg, Grizzly 6" Parallelogram Jointer.
User avatar
reible
Platinum Member
Posts: 11283
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:08 pm
Location: Aurora, IL

Post by reible »

Hi,

If I were to ever get another one of these I might go with this:
http://www.mastergage.com/display_product.asp?id=3
Take note they have one that fits the shopsmiths miter slot. They also appear to have a new method of get the fit right on the slot and still have it slide from place to place... if you're interested look at the faq and do a bit of reading.


If you look at any other versions make sure they have a shopsmith version as the miter slot is not the same size as other brands.

Ed
{Knight of the Shopsmith} [Hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags]
Post Reply