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Hi all
I got an older Shopsmith from someone (bought in 1978) and not having a manual I have to figure things out on my own. I am trying to take it apart to clean and oil it. When I plug it in the motor hums but the shaft does not turn.
Is there a lock for the shaft? Do I have to put something in place for it to turn?
Where do I oil or grease the unit?
thank you for the help
Diane
I got an older Shopsmith from someone (bought in 1978) and not having a manual I have to figure things out on my own. I am trying to take it apart to clean and oil it. When I plug it in the motor hums but the shaft does not turn.
Is there a lock for the shaft? Do I have to put something in place for it to turn?
Where do I oil or grease the unit?
thank you for the help
Diane
Watch this for your oiling questions.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... enance.htm
Here's the link for other sawdust sessions.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/Sawdust_Sessions.htm
Now the PTWFE. http://www.shopsmith.com/academy/curriculumlinks.htm
Then last but not least. A place to order a manual and more.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/ ... m#product2
I suspect that a good cleaning of the SS is in your future.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... enance.htm
Here's the link for other sawdust sessions.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/Sawdust_Sessions.htm
Now the PTWFE. http://www.shopsmith.com/academy/curriculumlinks.htm
Then last but not least. A place to order a manual and more.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/ ... m#product2
I suspect that a good cleaning of the SS is in your future.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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You really need to contact Shopsmith and purchase a manual for you machine.dragon wrote:Hi all
I got an older Shopsmith from someone (bought in 1978) and not having a manual I have to figure things out on my own. I am trying to take it apart to clean and oil it. When I plug it in the motor hums but the shaft does not turn.
Is there a lock for the shaft? Do I have to put something in place for it to turn?
Where do I oil or grease the unit?
thank you for the help
Diane
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/ ... m#product2
Some other good to have info:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/markv.htm
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/serialnumber.htm
However, in the meantime, the following links provides a manual that could be used to hep get you back in operation.
http://www.songofthegreatlakes.com/ssm5manual.htm
http://www.songofthegreatlakes.com/shopsmith.htm
"Making Sawdust Safely"
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Thank you both for this information. I will take the time to read it all carefully before undoing screws. Did find out though that the machine that I thought was from 1978 is actually from 1962, with a 1-1/8hp motor.
Serial 379059
And, yes there are many hours of cleaning in my future !!!
Diane
Serial 379059
And, yes there are many hours of cleaning in my future !!!
Diane
Dragon
Diane - it sounds like you might have a something binding behind the control sheave. Happened on a unit I picked up recently where the shaft on the back had broken and wedged itself in place. Once you feel confortable reading through the information the other members have posted, pop the inspection cover off and take a look inside. You'll be able to see right away if something is locking that sheave in place and preventing it from moving.
Next step will be to remove the belt cover and take off the drive belt (there are several instructions on this site on how to do this). Once safely removed and positioned out of the way, plug in and turn on the motor to see if it spins freely.
Matt
Next step will be to remove the belt cover and take off the drive belt (there are several instructions on this site on how to do this). Once safely removed and positioned out of the way, plug in and turn on the motor to see if it spins freely.
Matt
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Personal equipment: 510 made in 1993, belt sander, jig saw, band saw, planer and jointer
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What MAY be occurring is the motor belt has slipped too far down into the control sheave and is jammed. You will be able to see this from the 'hole' under the ShopSmith 'medallion'. If so it makes getting the belt off more difficult. Please refer to the instructions for removing the belt as previously suggested. Note that the control sheave needs to be in 'high speed position'. If adjusting it is not possible, you may have to remove the speed dial and quadrant gear etc. GOOD LUCK Holler if you need any help!:)dragon wrote:Hi all
I got an older Shopsmith from someone (bought in 1978) and not having a manual I have to figure things out on my own. I am trying to take it apart to clean and oil it. When I plug it in the motor hums but the shaft does not turn.
Is there a lock for the shaft? Do I have to put something in place for it to turn?
Where do I oil or grease the unit?
thank you for the help
Diane
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Consider using a power strip ====
=== rather than testing your shop's wiring. A power strip allows you to switch power on / off without touching the machine. Most power strips have a power on/off switch and get one with a 15 amp breaker.
Previous suggestion to check on belts is excellent starting point, plus you can try to move drive sheave, remove belt, and try motor w/o connection to control sheave.
Previous suggestion to check on belts is excellent starting point, plus you can try to move drive sheave, remove belt, and try motor w/o connection to control sheave.
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Had some time off this morning and took off the cover where the motor is located. Will take the unit out in the front next week and blow with the compressor to get some of the dust out. Took off the larger of the two belts and the motor turned. That made me very happy. The belt was hard to come off because it seemed to be jammed in there. Put it back and the whole thing now turns but the belt seems to be the wrong size. It rubs on both sides on the sheave. There is a number on it "Shopsmith 3052 DF". Cannot find this on the site. Found an instruction paper with this number from the "Magna" company in Cincinnati Ohio.
I will change both belts when I find out which ones are the right ones to order for this model.
The next step for me is to clean it and oil it properly. The whole thing is dry.
Thanks for your help.
Diane
I will change both belts when I find out which ones are the right ones to order for this model.
The next step for me is to clean it and oil it properly. The whole thing is dry.
Thanks for your help.
Diane
Dragon
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OKAY folks, she needs some help before buying belts.dragon wrote:Had some time off this morning and took off the cover where the motor is located. Will take the unit out in the front next week and blow with the compressor to get some of the dust out. Took off the larger of the two belts and the motor turned. That made me very happy. The belt was hard to come off because it seemed to be jammed in there. Put it back and the whole thing now turns but the belt seems to be the wrong size. It rubs on both sides on the sheave. There is a number on it "Shopsmith 3052 DF". Cannot find this on the site. Found an instruction paper with this number from the "Magna" company in Cincinnati Ohio.
I will change both belts when I find out which ones are the right ones to order for this model.
The next step for me is to clean it and oil it properly. The whole thing is dry.
Thanks for your help.
Diane
It has been confirmed that she has a unit built in 1962 and that it has a 1 1/8hp motor. It seems that this means she has one of the last models built with a Gilmer Belt. Is that correct.
If so,reham will likely require a gilmer belt and a drive belt.
These are very conveniently listed here:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/part ... dparts.htm
Gilmer Belt (521683) and Drive Belt (521682) about $40 plus shipping depending on what is on sale when you order.
Do thorough inspection while you arer cleaning. Some of these other parts are likely candidates and ordering them now would save on shipping.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
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dragon wrote: The next step for me is to clean it and oil it properly. The whole thing is dry.
Thanks for your help.
Diane
You absolutely MUST watch]http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rn_Pt2.htm[/URL]
and
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS123/SS123_Shopsmith_Reborn_Pt3.htm
before going much further. You'll thanks yourself AND you'll be able to better understand your machine. I knew NOTHING about a ShopSmith 2 months ago. Now, I see it in my dreams!
Mike
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