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New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:55 pm
by GetterDone
Hello
Thanks for letting me join.

About a month ago I got bit by the SS bug. :D

It started out with a 1984 Mark V close to home.
Then another 1984 Mark V close to work.

Then this is where it started getting out of hand.

I drove (4 Hours) to buy some attachments for sale.
Then 2 days later,
I drove to 500 miles (8 Hours) to get a 1981 Mark V.
That has a motor issue and a band saw with a Cast steel table.

Today I got a 50th anniversary mark V.
I glanced at the tag, and I cannot remember the exact year (2002-2003?)

I am going to start with a Restoration of the 1981 Mark V.

It is nasty inside. :eek:
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Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:15 pm
by GetterDone
Well there is some teeth missing :rolleyes:
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This is shifted to one side.
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That spring would be easy to lose. ;)
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this appears to be okay.
Just a little sawdust remanence.
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Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:57 am
by DLB
There is an ebay seller that refurbishes speed control handles including replacing the cast aluminum gear with a steel one. It is a fairly popular option. Search "Shopsmith speed control"

The Bill Mayo headstock improvement modification for the speed control assembly is good reading and adds some robustness to the speed control. Yours looks like you caught it prior to serious damage. See: viewtopic.php?p=185690#p185690 fourth attached PDF.

Welcome to the forum. Looks like the SS bug really got you. Is your anniversary machine a model 510 or 520?

- David

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:47 am
by AllenH
Have fun with it! I have thread going on my "Goldie" restoration. Working on the base right now. I haven't started on the headstock yet. I look forward to your progress.

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:23 pm
by GetterDone
DLB wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:57 am There is an ebay seller that refurbishes speed control handles including replacing the cast aluminum gear with a steel one. It is a fairly popular option. Search "Shopsmith speed control"

The Bill Mayo headstock improvement modification for the speed control assembly is good reading and adds some robustness to the speed control. Yours looks like you caught it prior to serious damage. See: viewtopic.php?p=185690#p185690 fourth attached PDF.

Welcome to the forum. Looks like the SS bug really got you. Is your anniversary machine a model 510 or 520?

- David
Thanks for the tip on the steel gear.
I just got thru read about the Bill Mayo improvement.
I plan to make that improvement.

As far as the 510 or 520 model , I am still learning , reading this forum and watching u tube.
How do I tell the difference?

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:29 pm
by GetterDone
AllenH wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:47 am Have fun with it! I have thread going on my "Goldie" restoration. Working on the base right now. I haven't started on the headstock yet. I look forward to your progress.
I have read thru your thread.
It is looking good. :)

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:51 pm
by HopefulSSer
GetterDone wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:23 pm
As far as the 510 or 520 model , I am still learning , reading this forum and watching u tube.
How do I tell the difference?
Both 510s and 520s use steel tubes to support floating tables. On 510s, those tubes fit within other steel tubes that are attached to the tables. On 520s however, the support tubes slip into bespoke aluminum extrusions on the tables. Also, the 520 rip fence is about twice the width of the 510 fence.

Cheers!

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:21 pm
by GetterDone
HopefulSSer wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:51 pm
GetterDone wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:23 pm
As far as the 510 or 520 model , I am still learning , reading this forum and watching u tube.
How do I tell the difference?
Both 510s and 520s use steel tubes to support floating tables. On 510s, those tubes fit within other steel tubes that are attached to the tables. On 520s however, the support tubes slip into bespoke aluminum extrusions on the tables. Also, the 520 rip fence is about twice the width of the 510 fence.

Cheers!
Thanks for the info.
I will have to take a look at it.
It's over my other shop.
Here is a picture of the 50th's table if it's not too big to load

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:35 pm
by JPG
It is a 510(later version). Looks in good condition.

?? Was there a 520 "anniversary" version?

I think there was a goldie "anniversary" version.

Re: New Member starting Restoration

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:28 pm
by chapmanruss
JPG,

Yes, there was/is a 50th Anniversary Mark V 520. I have one made in November 2001.

The 50th Anniversary edition Mark V began, if I remember correctly, in 2001 and continued for several years. I also have a 2006 50th Anniversary Mark V 505 like the one shown below although mine has been upgraded. All Mark Vs be it a 500, 505, 510 or 520 made during that time period have the 50th Anniversary plate. The Mark V 500, 505, 510 and 520 all have the same Headstock. It is the Table/Fence System it has that makes the difference between the models. The Mark V shown above in GetterDone's post is either a 505 or 510 depending on if it has the Floating Tables, Connector Tubes and Legs for the 510 or for the 505 does not.

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For some reason the Goldie's have commonly been referred to as Anniversary editions but I do not know why. The color changed to the Goldie from Greenie paint after about 7 years so what Anniversary? The Shopsmith 5 in 1 Tool beginning with the Model 10E began in late 1947 so again what Anniversary at about 13 years? JPG do you know/remember anything about Goldies being an Anniversary edition when you bought yours?